US 2007 Mazdaspeed3 and Mazda3

Wish i knew. Just heard on different site that all 2007 were pushed to a Dec. release date. (gossip)
 
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trees said:
Wish i knew. Just heard on different site that all 2007 were pushed to a Dec. release date. (gossip)

No, that's not true. The factory is doing the switchover to the facelifted Mazda3 this month (May).

Japan will be the first market for the facelift to reach dealerships. The facelifted Axela (Mazda3 name in Japan) will be launched later this month.

N. American-spec facelifted Mazda3 production will begin in June, so expect them to start trickling in 2.5-3 months after that. This is right in that Sep timeframe when most new model year vehicles first come out.

Current plan is for the Mazdaspeed3 to also arrive around this end-Aug/Sep timeframe. However, the Mazdaspeed3 is more like a brand new model rather than just a Mazda3 derivative. In addition, with it being a very high performance model, the likelihood of delays to the Mazdaspeed3 schedule are much higher.

In other words, it's more likely for there to be delays to the Mazdaspeed3 plans than the Mazda3 facelift plans, but these are the plans.
 
I was at Tustin Mazda on Saturday and from what the dealership was told, they expect the MS3 about September 20th at a price starting at $23,000. He was skeptical about the release date and he expects to see them by the end of October. This is at least what I was told.
 
seanw said:
http://wardsauto.com/ar/mazda3_designed_mazdaspeed/

Nice info on the mods made to the to hatch to reduce roll, etc. Also discusses how they designed the regular 3 hatch to be ready for the Mazdaspeed treatment due to heavy demand for a P5 Mazdaspeed which they say couldn't have stiffened enough.
i have been speaking to my local mazda dealer and they told me last week that they are not taking any preorders since they do not know specs/colors, etc...... yet. said they will contact me in june when they get more info. on colors, price, delivery dates. they said they expect to see them in oct-nov. time frame. a good friend of mine works there, which kind of helps on getting the inside scoop.:)
 
cmymsp said:
i have been speaking to my local mazda dealer and they told me last week that they are not taking any preorders since they do not know specs/colors, etc...... yet. said they will contact me in june when they get more info. on colors, price, delivery dates. they said they expect to see them in oct-nov. time frame. a good friend of mine works there, which kind of helps on getting the inside scoop.:)

Yeah, bad news is the Canadians will get them before us. Good news is they can give us some idea of how they perform.
 
seanw said:
Yeah, bad news is the Canadians will get them before us. Good news is they can give us some idea of how they perform.
so true, maybe we will be able to get some more insight on the car from them as well........
 
'07 Mazda3 partial features listing - US-spec ONLY

Mazda3 all trims, '06 standard features plus following: audio AUX in, TPMS

Mazda3i, '06 standard features plus following: black taillights

Mazda3s Touring, new options: traction control & dynamic stability control (in single package)

Mazda3s Grand Touring, '06 standard features plus following: LED taillights (sedan)

Mazda3s Grand Touring, new options: traction control & dynamic stability control (in single package)

Removed Colors (note US color names used)

Velocity Red, Winning Blue, Titanium Gray, Strato Blue, Snowflake White Pearl

New Colors (and other vehicles you can see the color on)

Phantom Blue (Mazda5), True Red (MX-5), Ice Blue, Aurora Blue, Galaxy Grey (CX-7, MX-5, RX-8), Phantom Purple, Crystal White (CX-7)

New Interior Color combination
Grey/black cloth interior available with certain Mazda3s exterior colors

All this info applies to US-spec only, for Canadian-spec see Canadian thread. This is only a partial list of changes, not complete.
 
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i want to change my current mazdaspeed for that baby i love it!! i hope the price is not more than 23k.
 
Raymo853 said:
It is going to be hard to choose between the re-freshed 3 as a Five-door Touring versus the new VW Rabbit for me. The pretension ass in me still wants the VW even though I know it will not be as reliable as the 3.

My VW (with warranty), cost me $6000 in miscellaneous repairs over the course of 15k miles. I had perfect oil-change and tune up records on it. Imagine what I would've paid without warranty....

My Mazda3 has cost me $0 in repairs over 35k miles.

Just my thoughts on the matter. After the issues with my VW and their customer service, I'd rather piss on one than ever own one again.
 
spike blue said:
i want to change my current mazdaspeed for that baby i love it!! i hope the price is not more than 23k.
I read price is like $24-25. Also, the performance on the MS3 that I read(think it was road & track or car & driver) was not that all impressive.
 
slug420 said:
wish they made the ms3 sedan....still looks neat though

I agree. I'm hanging on to the MP3 for now...just have not got past the station wagon look on the new MS.
 
vindication said:
I read price is like $24-25. Also, the performance on the MS3 that I read(think it was road & track or car & driver) was not that all impressive.

If you mean the MS6, there have been reviews all over the place. Some noted it was a great performer but whined about interior quality given the +30K price for the GT (C&D?). See Edmunds for a very favorable review. I think R&T had a car that was running poorly, so blame Mazda for not making sure the car was running right. The 1/4 mile times were way slow. At least two MS6 owners have run 13.7 1/4 miles in pure stock MS6s. You have to actually drive one to judge whether the mags (favorable or unfavorable) are right. It's amazing how many owners took a test drive for the hell of it and bought it immediately.

If you mean the MS3, no one has reviewed it 'cause they haven't built one yet. Looks good to me, though. 500-600 lbs. less than the MS6 and only 7 fewer horses. No AWD but who cares unless you live to drag race.
 
seanw said:
If you mean the MS3, no one has reviewed it 'cause they haven't built one yet. Looks good to me, though. 500-600 lbs. less than the MS6 and only 7 fewer horses. No AWD but who cares unless you live to drag race.
I wasn't aware MazdaUSA had released the final HP rating for the MS3

according to their website, it lists the MS6 as having 274hp@5500rpm, 280tq@3000rpm and the MS3 as having "more than 250hp" and the same torque rating

so you're saying the MS3 will have 267hp?
 
seanw said:
If you mean the MS6, there have been reviews all over the place. Some noted it was a great performer but whined about interior quality given the +30K price for the GT (C&D?). See Edmunds for a very favorable review. I think R&T had a car that was running poorly, so blame Mazda for not making sure the car was running right. The 1/4 mile times were way slow. At least two MS6 owners have run 13.7 1/4 miles in pure stock MS6s. You have to actually drive one to judge whether the mags (favorable or unfavorable) are right. It's amazing how many owners took a test drive for the hell of it and bought it immediately.

If you mean the MS3, no one has reviewed it 'cause they haven't built one yet. Looks good to me, though. 500-600 lbs. less than the MS6 and only 7 fewer horses. No AWD but who cares unless you live to drag race.
I mean the MS3, they had an article on it.
 
nate0123 said:
I wasn't aware MazdaUSA had released the final HP rating for the MS3

according to their website, it lists the MS6 as having 274hp@5500rpm, 280tq@3000rpm and the MS3 as having "more than 250hp" and the same torque rating

so you're saying the MS3 will have 267hp?

It's still not official or necessarily final. Crossbow and Saskpro (mazda6club forum) have some Mazda N. America source who gave them the info. According to this source, the engine tuning is the same as the MS6 but the more cramped engine compartment results in an (even more) restrictive exhaust, reducing HP slightly.
 
vindication said:
the hp numbers were also released at the NY auto show if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I read an article (not a review) which confirmed that the reason for the reduced output was the tight exhaust routing required in the smaller engine compartment. I can't remember where I saw it, though.
 
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