UniChip

Hey guys gotta quick question. I was hoping to get an cobb ap in future but I basically can get an unichip for 150 shipped. What do you guys think?

Im planning on having cobb sri/tip, custom 3 inch exhaust with downpipe in semi near future. do you know if they could tune or reflash it for those kinds of mods. Im gonna write to **********, but do i just have to send it to them? or also get it tuned? Im just curious cause Im thinking 150 shipped is pretty good deal or are they that much worse then ap where its still not worth it??
 
you can get way more power with unichip.. but no one seems to want to tune it for you.. so you have to send it back every time you need an adjustment.. which makes it very hard to be practical about it.. and its a b**** to install.. its fairly simple... but those ecu plugs can be tricky and if you **** those up.. youre in trouble.. for $150 its most likely not working or theres issues with it.. ive seen plenty of complaints with unichip.. this was a bust for street unit and unichip..

and it should work with those mods?? only issue was intake and turbo pressure i think??
 
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lets say though that im bascially not planning on doing anything other to the speed6 after i get downpipe would it be fine if I got tuned once year right? and by tune do you mean I send it in or what do I send in?
 
Unichip and Cobb are different set ups.. Cobb makes power with you mods unichip makes much more power on a stock ms6??

SU posts 50+ hp gains?? with unichip that's there claim not mine.. And the trouble is it isn't as adjustable..

Cobb claims 15hp gains with there tuning on a non stock car..

So if you believe the numbers the unichip "makes" more power especially for a stock set up..

The "tunes" and connections are different on these units.. I'm not making any claims myself just what I've read..
 
Unichip and Cobb are different set ups.. Cobb makes power with you mods unichip makes much more power on a stock ms6??

SU posts 50+ hp gains?? with unichip that's there claim not mine.. And the trouble is it isn't as adjustable..

Cobb claims 15hp gains with there tuning on a non stock car..

So if you believe the numbers the unichip "makes" more power especially for a stock set up..

The "tunes" and connections are different on these units.. I'm not making any claims myself just what I've read..

Yeah, no offense intended, but you're just regurgitating marketing hype and not even accurately. I'm not trying to sound condescending, but please allow me to expound on tuning and devices.

The UniChip is a simple piggyback device just like the Xede, Standback, and any other piggyback, add-on tuner. It works by intercepting the crank position(timing), MAF sensor(air mass), MAP sensor(manifold pressure), and sometimes the pedal position, alters those signals and sends them on to the ECU to TRY and "trick" the ECU into outputing the desired result.

These type devices work well enough for what they are, but suffice to say the UniChip CAN NOT alter the ECU logic tables, boost or fuel cut levels, open/closed loop switching points, or closed loop AFRs and fuel trims. When you alter the sensor signals to get the desired timing, AFR, or boost level you ALSO change other results from the ECU. Example, when you alter the MAF signal, you may get the desired AFR, but the ECU uses the MAF to calculate Load and to schedule other operations which will be altered as well. Some of these undesired results are detonation, closed loop when the ECU should be in open loop, etc.

The UniChip harness must be spliced into the ECU harness or use an hardwire installed adapter harness. The UniChip must stay installed into the car to perform the signal modifications real-time. If your UniChip malfunctions, your car may simply stop running, or it could cause an actual engine failure.

The software to change the intercepted signal outputs is proprietary to UniChip and their "authorized" service outlets. This fact is ridiculous and by itself makes the UniChip the WORST possible choice for a tuning device.

This post is running too long, so I'll not go into the advantages of a reflash device other than to say it has NONE of the piggyback problems plus it CAN change all the things the piggyback can't. Suffice to say that at this point, the Cobb ACCESSPort is the ONLY reflash device available for the Speed 3/6 series. You buy the device once and ALL the tuning software and subsequent updates is FREE, along with several off-the-shelf tunes that work well in most geographic locations.

The bottom line is that even on a completely stock car, the reflash device is the BEST option. The ONLY device that could be considered as "better" is a complete aftermarket ECU referred to as a "standalone ECU". In this case, you toss your OEM ECU into the trash and replace it with a fully customizable ECU.
 
The ONLY device that could be considered as "better" is a complete aftermarket ECU referred to as a "standalone ECU". In this case, you toss your OEM ECU into the trash and replace it with a fully customizable ECU.

Just wanted to affirm what Forzda's said as well as point out that this ECU is known to be extremely complex. So I doubt the probability of ever seeing a stand-alone ECU for these cars. Additionally, I believe Cobb is the only company at this point (possibly Hypertech as well??) to have cracked this ECU's code.
 
well cpe has too, but they only offer their little flashes, they don't have a flashing device for sale like cobb, so cobb is really the only end user flashing device.
 
The big issue with CPE is their tuning system seems to be a like a direct connection to your ATM harness.. Everyone I know whose used them has spent major $$$ at several points for upgrades etc..
 
FORZDA is on the ball. The unichip is worthless to anyone that does not have access to someone that is an authorized unichip tuner.
 
You never go ass to mouth!

I still say skip it, too much restriction and not enough gains.
 
There is also something to be said about going with a more mainstream product. The product support is typically much easier to come by and of a higher quality.
 
i ditched supporting unichip after my protege experiences with the unit. you couldn't get me to give them away with a clear conscience. off topic FORZDA, you still running the XEDE? how are you liking it?
 
i ditched supporting unichip after my protege experiences with the unit. you couldn't get me to give them away with a clear conscience. off topic FORZDA, you still running the XEDE? how are you liking it?

Hey! That you Ken? Yep, I still have the Xede connected, but now I'm running the AP/ATR for tuning. I still use the Xede map switching function to switch from WG-only to the AP boost control tune on the fly. I have one Xede map bank all zeroed out to run the full AP tune and in the other map bank I have all zeros except the WGDC map. I set it to -100% so it will kill the WG Sol commands so I can run wastegate-only for "normal" driving at ~15 psi and with a flip of a switch, 20 psi for when I "need" it!

The Xede worked perfectly as my primary tuner and now just as well as an expensive secondary map "switch". lol
 
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