UNICHIP w/out Boost Controller

[warrier04]

hey y'all. first off, let me say i tried to search, but that didn't uncover anything to benefit my curiousity.

my question is this:
can a person benefit from using the UNICHIP (or any upgraded EMS, for that matter) if they aren't boosting over stock? if so, are there any other gains besides no hesitation?

i don't have forged internals, and i don't plan on upping the boost until i upgrade those parts (which is a while away). the unichip is pretty expensive, so i would want to make sure that it helps a significant amount.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

drew.

 

[hazeXban]

get the haltech or MPI that way you can change the settings on your own or by a local tuner. I plan on going with the haltech after I get a full exhaust. Juan from hiboost has a great kit fot it. Also the MPI is great to from what I hear. I am lucky to have Nick in my state but I never hear back from him when I pm him. However I hear he is great with tech support and stuff. Haltech just seems to be an easier route to me. My 2cents.

Pete

 

[wicked]

haltech is kinda expensive isn't it?

any way yes you will get gains from tuning only,but the UNI chip isn't tuned for the stock PSI(I think)

I would advise the MPI tuner,thats if you can get ahold of nick.I've PMed him twice with no response.

 

[warrier04]

haltech is kinda expensive isn't it?

any way yes you will get gains from tuning only,but the UNI chip isn't tuned for the stock PSI(I think)

I would advise the MPI tuner,thats if you can get ahold of nick.I've PMed him twice with no response.

i got the phone number to the shop they're at, so hopefully if/when i need to get in touch with them, i can.

about the MPI tuner - that's probably a good suggestion to be able to tune to my specific setup, but that also brings up the fact that i would need to know how to tune. not that i can't or don't want to learn, but as of now, can't say i could do diddly squat.

from what i read, some people say it's a pretty in depth process.

drew.

 

[daedalus]

unichip is tuneable. Either you can have seomone local tune your car custom, or you can tell unichip what mods you have done to your car and for 35.00 they will reprogram the maps for your specific application.

It is my next modification. HEHEHE

 

[mspeed101]

I dont like the unchip. Its not tuned to your specific car. The haltech from what I have heard is very complicating to use. I think the best fuel management to get would be the mpi tuner. I think that it comes with premade maps to get you started and its not to hard to tune. There are alot of people on this board that are using this so im sure they would be happy to help you out. Or you can just take it to a tuner and have them tune it for your car and mods.

 

[daedalus]

Yea, I like MPI tuner, if only you could find someone that sells it...

 

[warrier04]

how user friendly is the mpi tuner? i mean...what is the actual tuning process like? real in-depth, or rather simple?

 

[mspeed101]

how user friendly is the mpi tuner? i mean...what is the actual tuning process like? real in-depth, or rather simple?

I'll let you know soon

 

[SonicRacer]

The Unichip comes with an electronic boost controller built in. They come with set maps to run 10-13psi and the appropriate fuel/timing maps to support it.

 

[warrier04]

The Unichip comes with a boost controller. They come with set maps to run 10-13psi with the appropriate maps to support it.

ya i know, but what i was wondering is:

would it be possible not to use the boost controller? just use the unichip for its maps to have the car run smoother and whatnot?

i would like to raise the boost, but i'm hearing way too many "blew engine w/ only boost controller" stories.

drew.

 

[low_psi]

yea, you just run stock boost. you can turn the boost controller on and off, as well as select which map you want IIRC.

 

[warrier04]

so, would it be worth the 900 asking price to just deal with the fuel maps?

from what i can tell, people enjoy their unichip, but if i'm not gonna use the boost function, seems like i'd just be throwing money away...

drew.

 

[daedalus]

First off, from what I understand people who are blowing their engines on upped boost levels are not running supporting mods or tuning of any kind. The 10-13PSI boost setting with UNICHIP is tuned for those maps. It IS safe due to the tuning. Running it on a stock map would be something I would never try. But its nice to know that you dont have to up the boost for daily driving, etc if you dont want to. But I have yet to hear of one case where someone blew their engine due to UNICHIP.

And from some recent posts, people that have unichip and take it off hate their MSP b/c it makes such a difference for daily driving and hp/tq. I think it is worth it for just the maps and safety they provide. As far as the boost, if you have the unichip, flip the switch and enjoy the ride... your safe.

 

[warrier04]

First off, from what I understand people who are blowing their engines on upped boost levels are not running supporting mods or tuning of any kind. The 10-13PSI boost setting with UNICHIP is tuned for those maps. It IS safe due to the tuning. Running it on a stock map would be something I would never try. But its nice to know that you dont have to up the boost for daily driving, etc if you dont want to. But I have yet to hear of one case where someone blew their engine due to UNICHIP.

And from some recent posts, people that have unichip and take it off hate their MSP b/c it makes such a difference for daily driving and hp/tq. I think it is worth it for just the maps and safety they provide. As far as the boost, if you have the unichip, flip the switch and enjoy the ride... your safe.

you think the maps would solve the 'blown rod syndrome' people are having? as much as i'd like to believe that, it still seems iffy ... the rods are physically weak no matter what maps you run.

lots of people who have blown rods didn't have the unichip, but i think that's because it just expensive - in time, there will be people w/ the unichip who have blown engines ... it'll just take longer considering there's a small population of people running those maps.

drew.

 

[SonicRacer]

Either drop the cash and get an actual EMS like Haltec and have it professionally dyno tuned or buy the Unichip. Either way you'll be safe. Different options for different people.

It's when people start messing with stuff when they don't know what they're doing is when engines start popping. Things like running 12psi on a bone stock MSP.

 

[warrier04]

i should start some kind of pole or something...

would updated maps really decrease the likleyhood (sp?) of blowing a rod?

right now, i'm holding off on raising boost because i fear the worst w/out forged internals... if i could invest in something like the unichip (and have it correctly tuned to my car) and boost at reasonable levels w/out worry, i wouldn't need the other 1400 dollars for forged internals.

by the way, DOES ANYONE HAVE A UNICHIP AVAILABLE FOR SALE?

drew.

 

[BinaryRotary]

There are like 3 people running the MPI. Its not a bad unit but good luck tuning it if you are a beginner. You're better off with the Unichip. Easy, safe and OH so easy to hide for warranty work.

 

[BinaryRotary]

i should start some kind of pole or something...

would updated maps really decrease the likleyhood (sp?) of blowing a rod?

right now, i'm holding off on raising boost because i fear the worst w/out forged internals... if i could invest in something like the unichip (and have it correctly tuned to my car) and boost at reasonable levels w/out worry, i wouldn't need the other 1400 dollars for forged internals.

by the way, DOES ANYONE HAVE A UNICHIP AVAILABLE FOR SALE?

drew.

www.corksport.com

That is your Unichip provider.

 

[Bass Addict]

Ok, Binary just made me think of a question. If you have the unichip and say your running 12 psi...and then you throw a rod, if you remove the unichip is there anyway they can tell you ran higher boost than stock? If not, then what would keep you from having your engine replaced under warranty?