TurboHoses SMIC & Hardpipes (Orders being taken)

[StreetUnit]

Three SMIC's availible. Hope all is well.

 

[DSMConvert]

FBI Turbohoses is correct the plastic pipes not only tend to leak but severly inhibit airflow, both due to the amount of bends and the "rippled" sections...we've done both dyno runs and track runs and the difference is indeed noticable...hardpipes and an smic/fmic are def. some of the biggest improvements you can do to your car.

 

[4001]

Im sure they do I just dont really think Hardpipes are absolutly necessary as some others on the board would agree with. Ive had no leak problems and I just cant justify $400 for the pipes and the material that is used for your pipes I believe increases temp..not by much but still does

 

[spicynamja]

Hardpipes are good! They smooth out the boost curve considerably.

 

[Puckpimp71]

My boost went up by 1-2psi all across the rpms without touching a boost controller. Goes to show you how great the stock ones aren't.

 

[FlyinMSP]

My boost went up by 1-2psi all across the rpms without touching a boost controller. Goes to show you how great the stock ones aren't.

I would like to understand this phaenomena. What can increase pressure? Is the turbo spinning at higher RPM? It shouldn't since it's propelled by exhaust, right? More air coming in? How? Then, there could be fuel cut. Or, air expands more due to more heat in the system, hence more pressure... (uhm)

 

[StreetUnit]

I would like to understand this phaenomena. What can increase pressure? Is the turbo spinning at higher RPM? It shouldn't since it's propelled by exhaust, right? More air coming in? How? Then, there could be fuel cut. Or, air expands more due to more heat in the system, hence more pressure... (uhm)

By changing the stock piping, a combination of three differences will change the boost pressure.

Stock pipes expand under load which create a loss of boost pressure, the TurboHoses hardpipes do not expand, creating a smoother, higher boost curve.

Stock pipes contain four 90 degree bends and one 45 degree bend, hardpipes have one 90 degree bend and two 45 degree bends. The lack of bends in the hardpipes allow for quicker boost response.

Stock plastic vs T6 aluminum. Aluminum dissapates heat very well. Colder air, better performance.

Hope this helps.

 

[StreetUnit]

All three of those differences change the boost...

 

[FlyinMSP]

I think that hard pipes are still waaay better than stock pipes but not being familiar with fluid dynamics... pressure is pressure isn't it? Only if there is a leak in the system there should be a pressure decrease (or loss). Sure it may be slower to build up due to restrictions whithin the system, but expansion souldn't be causing a pressure drop (that could be seen as a restriction), that's my guess ...I'm just thinking here

 

[Puckpimp71]

It's pressure, but it's also airflow. The air's still gotta travel from the turbo to the TB and the awkward bends and shape of the stock pipes make the airflow less efficient.

 

[FlyinMSP]

I totally agree... But I'm trying to understand the pressure increase that Puckpimp71 has noticed (see above). Unless he did an exhaust mod at the same time, or if his stock pipes were leaking, I don't see how he got a steady pressure increase (a spike is ok due to the smaller inside volume of the pipes)

 

[StreetUnit]

With the pipes, Puck has released the restrictions of the stock piping, hence for allowing more efficiency. The more restrictions you release, the higher the boost will rise.

For instance, stock boost may spike to 7.5 and settle at 5.8-6.

Put the hardpiping in, boost may spike to 8 and settle at 6.5-6.8.

Put a SMIC upgrade in with hardpiping, boost may spike to 8.8 and settle at 7.5.

The stock PCM (ECU) and the wastgate are set to stay around 6 lbs on a stock setup, as restrictions are released, turbo will spool up quicker and boost pressure will rise. The PRofec-B comes in handy to minimize the spike as these restrictions are released.

Call and we can explian in detail.

 

[StreetUnit]

Seems like you may need a quick session of MSP 101. Feel free to call.

 

[Chewbacca]

I know a lot has been said about the Turbohosees SMIC and Hardpipes, but I have to throw in my two cents, too..

This kit is the SHIET!

I never imagined that this car could run so smooth... no more hesitation at WOT! And the power increase was way more noticable than I was expecting it to be.

Those of you who think this kit is overpriced... think again! It's worth every penny! Not to mention the fact that the pipes add major bling-bling factor to your engine...

Thanks, Cullen!

 

[rizzo]

Are any kits available still???

 

[StreetUnit]

Are any kits available still???

Yes there are...

 

[onequickmsp]

I'm interested in purchasing the kit. Can you please pm me. Does the free shipping still apply if I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada??

Thanks!

 

[medic195]

i know for sure that turbohoses lists them as $495, but ********** might offer a different price

*okay just checked, cullen lists it for $395 on his website

if ur looking for those pipes im selling mine got them 2 to 3 months ago but my wife just bought me a Front mount so I am seeling them for 300 let me know pm me or email me at nemo_sanchez2000@yahoo.com

 

[MazdaSpeedSter]

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[Dr.Sound]

......Stock plastic vs T6 aluminum. Aluminum dissapates heat very well. Colder air, better performance.

although it does dissapate heat well, alluminum DOES NOT dissapate heat better than plastic.
u will see higher temps compared to stock pipes.

the rest what Cullen said is true.