sweetlou69
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where can i send this to get fixed? any good spots to do it for cheap? im just tradin the car in after anyway
Turbo is ******! take a look
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From what I heard it was not sitting at 10.5, and it was around 8 psi. Hole in the wastegate could do it but it never passed 8psi the driver said. More and more leads to a bad tune. If it had a bad knock or detonation that blew the motor since the motor is weak then there isn't much time for plugs to foul or show signs. Before you could finish the tune the LSD blew, it was pretty much one WOT run that blew the motor so 24 hours of driving holds like a grain of salt.
actually we did many wot runs when the lsd blew and it was running rich.Alls i was doing was tuning the buck out from to much fuel. i dont really care what you heard, you werent in the car, the driver was alone so no one but j knows the truth. i know who you are, and i know who the driver is so how about since you werent in the car you keep your mouth shut since you have no idea whats going on. sweetlou WAS in the car when the lsd went, it WAS rich, and no knocking or one of us would have heard it. and if it wasnt at 10.5 @ 8 psi if there was a lean spot then why the **** was the driver romping on it at lean? I dont really understand why you two are blaming the motor tune. oh yea maybe cause he doesnt want to take responsability. I have nothing to hide, yes it wasnt complete thats cause sweetloud was supposed to get it tuned and didnt but it was in no way lean at WOT. in fact it was so rich it would buck. Sweet lou was in the car, if he was unhappy or heard somehting weird he would have seen it right in front of his eyes. what happeend when his motor blew? oh wait only 1 person knows..when iheard the story it was never over 6 psi...now its 8? yea ok, again it must be the tune. how bout you stay out of this cause you nor i, nor mike know what really happened. If you want to blame me and the tune go right ahead but it wasnt lean, and there was no knock.
i know the tune was rich enough to not blow a motor at 6 psi (ive seen automatic protege run 8 psi at 13.5 and not blow, cause they got OFF THE GAS cause it was lean) there is no excuse when you have the tools to see what the motor is doing right in front of your face, unless it was just a freak thing where the motor just went cause it was sad inside. You can blame the tune till your blue in the face but the fact of the matter is, sweet lou drove the car, it WAS rich and didnt knock, what happened when he WASNT driving it....??? oh yea no one knows but j.
doesnt matter anyhow cause once i swap the engines hes getting rid of it anyway so u can blame the tune all you want.
i know the tune was rich enough to not blow a motor at 6 psi (ive seen automatic protege run 8 psi at 13.5 and not blow, cause they got OFF THE GAS cause it was lean) there is no excuse when you have the tools to see what the motor is doing right in front of your face, unless it was just a freak thing where the motor just went cause it was sad inside. You can blame the tune till your blue in the face but the fact of the matter is, sweet lou drove the car, it WAS rich and didnt knock, what happened when he WASNT driving it....??? oh yea no one knows but j.
doesnt matter anyhow cause once i swap the engines hes getting rid of it anyway so u can blame the tune all you want.
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not sure why there's a blame game involved, nor will i myself get involved. eitherway, what is the chance that the turbo was like that before the motor went? slim? possible? why is it every other blade? are those blades higher than the other ones that are intact? if they are, then the wheel went up into the housing, that's the only logical explanation. if it's any consolation, my motor went with just a CAI and exhaust as my mods, at stock boost. so, motors blowing tuned, untuned, logical, illogical, doesn't apply.
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exactly. there shouldnt be blame. sweetlou wasnt driving the car so no one knows what happened. im not gonna sit here and take their s*** tho. i personally think its to rid the driver of any responsability. and the driver is a really cool person (i met him twice) and i know he wouldnt be blaming me(tune), evo mr has to open his mouth and make it all worse.
doesnt bother me anyhow cause im saving sweetlou like 2k by swapping his engine for him so im doin my part to help, and when we get done im gonna rip the block apart and see what happened if i can.
as for the turbo the day the lsd went the turbo was fine (wheel wise), i checked it before i put the intake back on. while driving we heard no new noises than sweetlou had reported before he even gave it to me. then once the lsd went it wasnt driven till it was fixed. so it had to be within that 24 hrs.
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onequickmsp
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smo0f said:
That scares me. What can you do if your motor goes? New motor?? or can you repair it?
no you needa new block, when it goes it usually blows a hole in the side of the engine..
and smoof, yes those are higher than the other blades (ie. they are on a different plane) i was thinkin that might be what hapepned also cause some of the corners look chipped off then once it started with one corner it all out of balance then terminates itself, and you get the idea. what causes that? i dont know, i just know it wasnt like that when it left my shop (aka uneven driveway
) or when we were tuning i heard nothing bad with the turbo. infact it was running like a beast for 30 mins haha.
and smoof, yes those are higher than the other blades (ie. they are on a different plane) i was thinkin that might be what hapepned also cause some of the corners look chipped off then once it started with one corner it all out of balance then terminates itself, and you get the idea. what causes that? i dont know, i just know it wasnt like that when it left my shop (aka uneven driveway
) or when we were tuning i heard nothing bad with the turbo. infact it was running like a beast for 30 mins haha.
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onequickmsp said:
you need a new core, because there's usually a hole in the block where the rod/piston went through. using the core, depending on how bad the damage is, you can resalvage older parts and use them to rebuild the motor. sometimes it's just more convenient and not that much more expensive to buy a used/junkyard motor. the option i went with is a complete rebuild with cp pistons and manley rods, a full head job, and other stuff. a shitload more expensive, but i wont have to worry about this happening
terbow said:no you needa new block, when it goes it usually blows a hole in the side of the engine..
and smoof, yes those are higher than the other blades (ie. they are on a different plane) i was thinkin that might be what hapepned also cause some of the corners look chipped off then once it started with one corner it all out of balance then terminates itself, and you get the idea. what causes that? i dont know, i just know it wasnt like that when it left my shop (aka uneven driveway
yea, that's just f'n weird. i was gonna say, if he is keeping the car, he should just go with a turbo stage 1 upgrade, but i'm under the assumption that he's getting rid of it once it's up and running again according to stock specs
his is on the pressure side so it would have been poopy. hes been on the same tune for months he just had a buck i couldnt get out so thats what i was tuning out when the lsd went. more i look at the turbo the more i wonder if it destructed somehow. maybe it was overboosted and wasnt in spec for balance and it hit the housing. cause the corners look chipped.
The only sure fire way to tell is to peel the turbo housing open. If there are marks on the inside of the houseing then tada.... answer.... but if the shft had that much play then you could easily just grab the sucker right now and see if it moves that much. Not to mention can a turbo have that much play to the point it hits the housing all the way to the center most point of the shaft. I dont know i guess thats my 2 cents...
