Tranny issues...PLEASE HELP.

[Dpwhitehead1]

ok guys. A lot of you know my story w/ the build. it's sad, i know. now i'm having more issues...


I went driving the other day, only to notice that the speedometer wasn't working. i got a new speedo from SAM1 on the forum, and put it in today, still nothing.To be more specific, it's the only one of the cluster guages, NOT working. tach works, fuel, and temp.

a little background;

i had a mazda protegeLX. I bought a msp motor/tranny. I did the swap into my lx. we just recently got it running, so i had no ideas of this issue. I spoke briefly w/ kooldino on the subject, and he wasn't positive, but he had some knowledge of what "MAY" be going on.

Something of the sort, about abs sensors to the non msp model, is how the speed was read. and for the msp, was a sensor or something in the tranny.

My question, does anyone know of this issue, and how can it be resolved? Please any input is welcome. thank you.

 

[JCell]

are u using the msp ecu?

 

[Kooldino]

I could be wrong, but as I understand it, the MSP gets it's speedo reading from the ABS sensors, whereas a standard Protege gets it's speedo reading via the sensor plugged into the trans.

What boostd needs to know is if a non MSP speedo sensor can plug into his MSP trans to resolve the issue.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

are u using the msp ecu?

no, dana told me to sell it, b/c of the mpi..(not installed yet.)

 

[CrazyCaker]

I think Lil Freek had this problem as well when he did his ATx to MTx conversion. Try checking with him, he might know.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

I think Lil Freek had this problem as well when he did his ATx to MTx conversion. Try checking with him, he might know.

mhmm. thank you sir. i'll pm him.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

mhmm. thank you sir. i'll pm him.

still nothing. he's not fixed it..anyone else?

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

bump

 

[msp35]

doesn't the speedo gear from the standard tranny need to be macined onto the lsd of the msp tranny? Someone recently posted pictures of this.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

doesn't the speedo gear from the standard tranny need to be macined onto the lsd of the msp tranny? Someone recently posted pictures of this.

i dunno about this, but please, if you know and see something. let me know.

 

[Kansei]

doesn't the speedo gear from the standard tranny need to be macined onto the lsd of the msp tranny? Someone recently posted pictures of this.

yeah that is one solution, but requires pulling the tranny.

And I'll just confirm that the MSP gets speedo reading from ABS sensors not a speedo gear.

I don't think you can just plug in to the MSP tranny and get a speedo reading, I don't think it has the gear for it at all.

 

[Kansei]

i dunno about this, but please, if you know and see something. let me know.

You can put the speedo gear onto the MSP tranny.. it's been done.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

yeah that is one solution, but requires pulling the tranny.

And I'll just confirm that the MSP gets speedo reading from ABS sensors not a speedo gear.

I don't think you can just plug in to the MSP tranny and get a speedo reading, I don't think it has the gear for it at all.

anyone know who i could talk to regarding this?

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

anyone know who i could talk to regarding this?

what about the msp ecu...would that change something?if i installed that instead of the lx ecu that i havE?

talked to jason @ mont mazda. bagman1, he said the msp reads a 21 gear or something and the lx reads a 22 gear or something..he thinks it could be as easy as the ecu change..anyone wanna gimme an ecu to test out??

 

[Kansei]

anyone know who i could talk to regarding this?

hmm not totally sure? Do you still have your LX tranny?

 

[Kansei]

what about the msp ecu...would that change something?if i installed that instead of the lx ecu that i havE?

talked to jason @ mont mazda. bagman1, he said the msp reads a 21 gear or something and the lx reads a 22 gear or something..he thinks it could be as easy as the ecu change..anyone wanna gimme an ecu to test out??

no the ECU doesn't do anything as far as I know.. maybe if you installed the abs system and the ECU it would work though.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

hmm not totally sure? Do you still have your LX tranny?

no.

dana sold it.


the way we saw it..if the lx ecu isn't reading anything, maybe the msp ecu would read the sensor correctly.

 

[Kansei]

do you have the full abs system installed though? the only thing I know is that the MSP ecu that I'm running doesn't care that I don't have ABS.. no CEL or anything, and it doesn't try to take control of my speedo gauge or anything

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

do you have the full abs system installed though? the only thing I know is that the MSP ecu that I'm running doesn't care that I don't have ABS.. no CEL or anything, and it doesn't try to take control of my speedo gauge or anything

no i don't have abs. how would you know if it tried? ..i'm confused...how the **** could it not read the speedo..

 

[CrazyCaker]

Putting the pink speedo gear onto the MSP tranny in this case will do nothing. If he still had his LX tranny though, he could have put the LSD in with the machined pink speedo gear and then it would have worked.