Tire Problems Help!

yup, door stickers say 38lbs. But, when I got my car, I said wtf? Dropped it to 32. After 4000kms, I noticed the outside of the tires was wearing badly already, so, I upped it to 38. MAkes the ride rougher for sure.

End of story? 14000kms total, and I'm down to the wear indicators. This is my 3rd speed, this is the single worse tire I've ever owned for wear. Tread rating is 140, and you better believe it. Sticky tire yes, long lasting no.

I also noticed the back tires wear faster.
 
fourthmeal, you do understand that the speed6 is heavier than the speed3 by almost 500lbs right?
 
absolutely!

Per my posts you'll see that I'm considering this as the primary reason for Mazda to dare use 38psi as a recommended daily-use air pressure. But the sacrifice is the center tread, as proven here. The trick is, do you break away from the suggestions and set your tires to 33-34psi, and hope for the best? Or do you keep it at 38psi and expect accelerated wear?

I'd like to see this car corner-weighted. I wonder how much each corner is loaded down with, as this may prove to be the answer to the problem. The speed6 probably needs a heavier duty tire, if there is one out there.
 
Middle wear is usually due to over-pressure. Simple fix: Lower the psi by a few lbs at a time. Just small amounts. Wearing the center out can also occur when the weight of the car is overbearing on the tires' design. Meaning that the stock tires may be proving to be too weak for the weight of the car. This is less likely since your car is only 3800lbs...but some trucks driving on car tires have this issue.

Check your air pressure for the rear tires...bet it is too high. Check them COLD.

See?
 
I also noticed the back tires wear faster.
Not only you - I noticed that too, started even thread about it some time ago. Anyway, today, when I was changing my tires I had TWI tread depth in front (came back from rear) and 1mm above TWI in rear. Besides, Potenzas were noisy :)
 
Hopefully tomorrow i will hear back from Mazda Canada with some good news. I know back tires will probably wear quite a bit more just don't see how back ones are smooth from the middle of the tire to the outside like where there is not a bump on the tire and the front ones got a couple of summers left on them
 
absolutely!

Per my posts you'll see that I'm considering this as the primary reason for Mazda to dare use 38psi as a recommended daily-use air pressure. But the sacrifice is the center tread, as proven here. The trick is, do you break away from the suggestions and set your tires to 33-34psi, and hope for the best? Or do you keep it at 38psi and expect accelerated wear?

I'd like to see this car corner-weighted. I wonder how much each corner is loaded down with, as this may prove to be the answer to the problem. The speed6 probably needs a heavier duty tire, if there is one out there.

then how do you explain me keeping all tires at 38 psi and having the front outside tread wear faster than anywhere else?
 
then how do you explain me keeping all tires at 38 psi and having the front outside tread wear faster than anywhere else?

My first hunch is Cornering, probably. But I thought about it a bit, and came up with some ideas...

I haven't seen the alignment range that Mazda designs this car with, but I can assume that its camber is fairly tame, and the toe-in is nominal as well. But if the car leans into its tires under cornering, and I'd assume it does after seeing videos of it maneuvering, that means the outside tread blocks are going to take a beating on this heavy front end biased car. Like I said, I'd love to see this car (and the MS3) corner-weighted. That would answer a lot of questions! Some brands of tires also have softer sidewalls, which would cause the tire to roll over itself and shear and wear the outside tread blocks first. Some tires have a tread block pattern that is prone to shearing compared with others, though I feel this tire is not one of these. Finally, it is possible that your alignment has too much toe-in.

So to review, the possible things I see happening with premature outside edge wear:
1. Very aggressive driving style that is forcing the front end to plow. (I don't know the answer to this, only you do.)
2. Excessive toe-in aligment settings
3. Too tame of a camber setting, combined with a soft stock front swaybar which is causing the tire to be leaned on in corners
4. The car weighs a lot on the front corners
5. The tires are prone to wear this way, due to soft sidewalls (not likely, IMO)


BTW, I imagine for Drover's rear tires the fact they are wearing so aggressively in the center has something to do with the fact they were inflated to 38psi in very, very cold temperatures (he mentioned 1 degree...I'm unsure if it is Celsius or Fahrenheit he was referring to but either way that is COLD), and typically you need to compensate for temperature with roughly 1 psi per 10 degrees F ambient change.

I had a 2000 Celica GTS with 205/50-16 Yokohama Advan tires, and I remember that those tires wore horribly (despite them having exactly the same wear rating of 140 A A)...I think I got 5000 miles on them, rotating them every 2,000 miles in my garage, before they were racing slicks. So, at least these tires aren't as bad! LOL...those Yokos SUCKED.

Before anybody mentions it...yes I know that Yoko's 140 tread wear does NOT provide a reference point for Bridgestone's 140 rating...they are only used as guidelines within the brand line.
 
The ONLY reason I could think why they put 38lbs on the sticker is to accommodate the weight of the car! Air holds the car up, so maybe that is why. But 38psi is going to wear a typical sports car tire in the center quite a bit.

On the Speed3, we have 215/45-18 Bridgestone Potenza RE-05 I think it is. This tire is one of the stickiest, grippiest (is that a word? LOL) tires out there in its class (which is ultra-high performance Summer tires), yet mine are only worn about 1/2 way despite my almost 12,000 miles of abuse. I rotate them about every 5,000 at home on jackstands.

What brand and type of tire comes on the Speed 6?

I just took the same OE tires off my Speed 6 at 14500 to put on some new AS Pirelli P Zero Nero AS for the Winter. They probably had about another couple thousand miles to go. But they had a very hard life. BMW CCA/ Tire Rack Street Survival School for my grandson which turned into an all out autocross school for him due to his instructor and his apptitude. Then two SCCA Autcross events to finish them off. Boy did they perform. His index times were in the top 10 in the end of season challenge event against guys that were all on race tires. His team took the championship. Quite good for some skinny street tires, a novice 16 yr old and a darkhorse car.
 
Mazda wouldn't do nothing for me but i called Bridgestone and they are giving me 50% off a new set no questions asked.
 
Anyone have trouble with the tires on the 2006-2007 Speed 6? Mine are worn out completely on the back of the car in 10000km and Mazda do not wanna do anything about it and saying pretty much it my fault the tires are worn out and that its the way I'm driving the car. I don't drive the car hard or be taking turns fast just normal driving. Tires are properly inflated, went today and mazda done a wheel alignment and charge me for it even tho the alignment was perfect.


Within 12,000 miles an alignment is considered an adjustment and covered under the new car warranty. If your car is under that mileage you should not have been charged for it.
 
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