The Ohio Random Thread... aka We Should Probably Be Working

Speaking of moves, if everything plays out as planned we won't be Ohio residents too much longer. With the kids getting older it's getting harder to be 600+ miles away from family. Looking at places back in Virginia (Hampton Roads and Richmond) and North Carolina (Raleigh/Durham).

Looks like this is going to happen. Beth got offered a position at Genworth Financial in Richmond. Provided their offer is remotely what she's asking we'll be picking up and heading back to VA before the end of the year. Unfortunately, I don't have anything lined up so I'll be teleworking for the near term. Cleaning up and moving house is going to be very stressful.

In other news, thoughts on "diesel-gate?"
 
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Looks like this is going to happen. Beth got offered a position at Genworth Financial in Richmond. Provided their offer is remotely what she's asking we'll be picking up and heading back to VA before the end of the year. Unfortunately, I don't have anything lined up so I'll be teleworking for the near term. Cleaning up and moving house is going to be very stressful.

In other news, thoughts on "diesel-gate?"

they fine VW 18 billion for making the diesel pass emissions then perform better after. but GM only got a 1 billion dollar fine for faulty ignitions that could have actually killed people...

IMHO this just seems like our government seeing Diesels starting to catch on and coming up with some "issue" to make them look bad so the gas companies who pay the politicians can stay happy
 
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they fine VW 18 billion for making the diesel pass emissions then perform better after. but GM only got a 1 billion dollar fine for faulty ignitions that could have actually killed people...

IMHO this just seems like our government seeing Diesels starting to catch on and coming up with some "issue" to make them look bad so the gas companies who pay the politicians can stay happy

While some could "argue" the increased emissions killed someone there is and never will be solid proof, unlike the GM case where there are over 120 confirmed deaths (though I still don't understand how faulty ignition switch = insta-crash) so I agree. I think our government is all too happy a non-U.S. company was caught doing this. If it were GM or Ford you know the reaction would have been more subdued. While VW should be fined in accordance with the law it does no good imposing a fine that can't be collected or results in residual damage. Corporations are people.
 
they fine VW 18 billion for making the diesel pass emissions then perform better after. but GM only got a 1 billion dollar fine for faulty ignitions that could have actually killed people...

IMHO this just seems like our government seeing Diesels starting to catch on and coming up with some "issue" to make them look bad so the gas companies who pay the politicians can stay happy

I agree with the first part, although I would say that the EPA and CARB have a lot bigger pull on things than I would have ever thought.
 
I really don't think VW purposely doing something to get around the Clean Air Act can qualify as a Government conspiracy against diesels. It's bad, really bad. It will be interesting to watch the fall out (CEO already out) and the future of the company and how it will effect things like their racing programs.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/the-vw-diesel-scandal-is-much-worse-than-a-recall-its-outright-deceit/

Unfortunately this will put another black eye in the perception of diesels in the states. Oh well, the 6 diesel was never gonna happen anyway.
 
While some could "argue" the increased emissions killed someone there is and never will be solid proof, unlike the GM case where there are over 120 confirmed deaths (though I still don't understand how faulty ignition switch = insta-crash) so I agree. I think our government is all too happy a non-U.S. company was caught doing this. If it were GM or Ford you know the reaction would have been more subdued. While VW should be fined in accordance with the law it does no good imposing a fine that can't be collected or results in residual damage. Corporations are people.
Agreed, I think GM got off too easy, just like Firestone got off too easy when they would blow on Explorers.

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I'm late to the conversation, but it will be interesting how it pans out for the whole car industry. I can't help but think that maybe just maybe this will kill VW. Not hoping, just wondering if it will.
 
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Define corporation. When a company goes under what happens to all the people employed; the services/support previously offered to customers?

I'm late to the conversation, but it will be interesting how it pans out for the whole car industry. I can't help but think that maybe just maybe this will kill VW. Not hoping, just wondering if it will.

This is why I keep telling my wife that governments need to be careful with fines, felony charges, etc. While penalties need to be given and reparations will be owed VW is still the largest automaker in the world. Can you imagine the fallout if they suddenly disappeared overnight? The financial and political consequences are huge. All VW has to do is threaten the complete withdrawal from the U.S. and our government will concede.
 
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But the EPA! I really don't see them letting thousands of cars go on the road with know faulty emissions equipment.

But if VW reprograms all the cars, and power and or fuel economy go down, you bet the civil lawsuits and settlements will bleed them pretty well.

The fines are a bit much as well, unless it's basically a cash bond to fix all the faulty emissions. I know, I'm using the term faulty, even though it's just programming, but that's what it really is.

I also find it crazy that they want to make an example of VW, yet the whole airbag issue seems to be brushed off. It makes you question the whole automotive industry, and the government oversight/regulations that are followed and sometimes ignored.
 
But the EPA! I really don't see them letting thousands of cars go on the road with know faulty emissions equipment.
VW isn't going to be able to get out of this without some sort of "fix" whether it be a ECM flash that will likely affect power, torque, and fuel economy, or a hardware change like adding a urea treatment system. Areas with emissions/safety inspections will be the easiest to enforce. Vehicles will have to show proof the recall was performed and pass testing, if required. In areas like SW Ohio, which has no form of yearly inspection, it would be nearly impossible to enforce. VW will send out the recall notice but owners like me can choose to simply ignore it.

But if VW reprograms all the cars, and power and or fuel economy go down, you bet the civil lawsuits and settlements will bleed them pretty well.
This is why I think a hardware solution, if possible is the best bet. Exhaust treatment systems don't generally affect performance or fuel economy. If this is done at VW's cost and actual driving emissions are now within regulations there's no basis for a lawsuit.

The fines are a bit much as well, unless it's basically a cash bond to fix all the faulty emissions. I know, I'm using the term faulty, even though it's just programming, but that's what it really is.
Part of me thinks it's silly that fine is $37,500/car when the MSRP for almost all the cars affected is less than that. Then again, the fine is clearly stated and VW violated the regulation. I agree the money should not go to the EPA/federal government though but rather toward the effort to fix the issue. That in and of itself is punishment enough.

I also find it crazy that they want to make an example of VW, yet the whole airbag issue seems to be brushed off. It makes you question the whole automotive industry, and the government oversight/regulations that are followed and sometimes ignored.
The fact that VW can get fined up to something like $18 billion for violating emissions regulations yet GM got fined ~$1.9 billion for the ignition switch issue is ridiculous. Granted I still don't understand why failed ignition switch = insta-crash, GM basically admitted to negligence that resulted in the deaths of over 120 people. I don't necessarily think the government is looking to make an example of VW but I'm certain if this were happening to Ford or GM it "wouldn't be as big a deal."
 
This is why I think a hardware solution, if possible is the best bet. Exhaust treatment systems don't generally affect performance or fuel economy. If this is done at VW's cost and actual driving emissions are now within regulations there's no basis for a lawsuit.

Doesn't the urea injection either take a separate tank, or use fuel from the tank, directly having an impact on milage? It may be less of an impact, but still not as much. I also don't think it's as easy to install that as a retrofit, especially since it does need some computer oversight, on an already completed wiring harness.

Also, I'm not too up on the current diesel systems, but what happens when you run the urea tank dry? I doesn't "hurt" anything on the car does it? My extent of diesel is in the turbo diesel theory, and on farm tractors I've worked on/used.


As far as the fine for GM, that's the tip of the iceberg. The direct safety equipment failures of Takata only resulted in a $14,000 fine a day for resisting the investigation. I can't find any article on an actual fine for that screw up, or the lack of a timely fix (supplying parts to dealers is still in progress).
 
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I've put the stock wheels back on the car and replaced the original MSP springs with Tein H tech springs. No more rubbing!
Also have AWR motor mounts installed, and will be installing an SSAFC this week. Thinking of getting some higher temp brake pads on the front for November 1st HPDE at Mid Ohio, any suggestions?

Also, if anyone is interested, I have a set of 17x7.5 ET45 Konig Feathers for sale. They are 5x100 and 5x114.3, black, and weigh about 17 lbs each.
 
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Thinking of getting some higher temp brake pads on the front for November 1st HPDE at Mid Ohio, any suggestions?

For a first HPDE, I would suggest Carbotech XP8 on the front and AX6 on the rear. If you have more experience as a driver, then going up to XP10 on the front would be good. The XP8 will not be any good on the street in OH winter temps though so just a suggestion for the track.
 
Hey all, it looks like we'll be leaving Ohio after all. Beth accepted the job in Richmond and starts in November. The RX7 is going to have to be put on hold for a bit but I still hope to have it running next year. It looks like VIR will be my new "home track" but I still hope to be able to come out to Mid-Ohio at least once a year. We'll try to make it to as many Mazda corrals as we can so we'll be in touch. There's always the forums too...
 
For a first HPDE, I would suggest Carbotech XP8 on the front and AX6 on the rear. If you have more experience as a driver, then going up to XP10 on the front would be good. The XP8 will not be any good on the street in OH winter temps though so just a suggestion for the track.

Thanks for the information. Do you know of a good place to buy these from, discount, etc? I've done about 6 track days, first time with the MSP. I will be driving it to the track on November 1st, so it will most likely be cold. I see the AX6 operating temp is from 50f and the XP8 are from 200f. I am only running street tires so perhaps the AX6 will be fine?
 
Having issues with the HID kit, haven't had time to play with it to see if it's the lights, a loose connection or the ballasts. I think it's the ballasts because occasionally they work after having the light switch on forever and sometimes (not as often now) they come on right away. Originally I thought I'd be cheap and convert back to the halogen setup but then I checked ebay and holy crap they are cheap now. I know you get what you pay for but cheap ballast replacements for like $15, that's cheaper than the name brand replacement lights and will probably last the same amount of time.

Might get crazy and HID ALL THE LIGHTS! probably not, I'm still cheap and lazy.
 
Decided I should check the fuse before i spend any money...fuse is toast and I'm 99% sure that's my issue.

Also, really wanted this for my basement/sports room/man cave, but I know there's no way.
 
Ha, a fuse. It's the simple things that really frustrate you sometimes.

Yep, $2 and I'm good to go.

Stopped at a lot by my house because they have a VRM Speed6 on the lot. It looked stock but in pretty bad shape. Rusty hood, driver's side rear looks almost as bad as my Camaro. (boom07) No one came out to talk to me so not sure on the price.
 

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