The MS6 Build-a-Beast is coming very soon...(Pics)

[BLACKMS3]

And that's why it's not your car... LOL!

FYI, I don't know of any standalones that support Direct Injection, do you?

 

[baseballd2]

If hes boosting in the 20's im sure he'll be pretty damn close

 

[Captain KRM P5]

And that's why it's not your car... LOL!

FYI, I don't know of any standalones that support Direct Injection, do you?

its really not that difficult to make happen. we've been working to this end for some time now.

 

[Dream]

I'm not trying to be a dick, so don't take this the wrong way. I don't think you'll be able to get 400whp. Even with the standback, I don't think the ecu will let it happen. Good luck on your tuning, but for the time being, I think it would be wise to just tune it to run safely. It'll still be plenty faster and alot over stock, but it's not going to be anywhere near the potential of your set-up. If you have real reputable tuners tuning it anyway, I would think they'd feel more comfortable with a standalone in the first place. One of the best Subaru tuners around the midwest goes by the name Booger, and his claim to fame is standalones. He took a bubble-eye wagon with lots of goodies and a cobb hot-flash, removed the flashed ecu's control (which had the car hitting 620awhp on his dyno as it was), added a standalone (I think a Megasquirt), and tuned it out to 859awhp. That's ******* impressive. At any rate, I'm just suggesting to find out from the builders and tuners what the cost and time would be to switch to a standalone. If it's in your budget, your likely to break some records for this car (as well as some axles, u-joints, driveshafts, diffs, ect...).

I pulled over 500whp with my Subaru on the stock ECU. Standalones are spendy. I think its just a matter of time before tuners crack this ECU, just give it time.

 

[chriscecc914]

I dont see why my car couldnt hit 400whp. The motor is good for it, the turbo is good for it, the fuel pump is good for it, and the cp-e ems is good for it. Theres already cars with stock motors and smaller turbos pulling close to 330whp and close to 400wtq. I dont see why another 70whp cant be added with more fuel, boost and tuning but we'll see in a few days.

 

[jcgemt2003]

I am in total agreement with you my friend. I dont see why shouldnt be able to hit at least 400whp. You have the components, now just need to see what the drivetran is gonna take. I dont know that you will see more than
450whp but My fingers are crossed and Ill be damned if that isnt a hardon down there. GOOD LUCK CHRIS AND I CAN HARDLY TAKE THE SUSPENSE.

 

[jcgemt2003]

My fingers a crossed my friend. I hope you hit 450whp. 400whp at least. DAMNIT!!! Get to the freakn dyno already. The suspense is killing me.

 

[Dream]

My fingers a crossed my friend. I hope you hit 450whp. 400whp at least. DAMNIT!!! Get to the freakn dyno already. The suspense is killing me.

THIS! (yippy)

 

[ATE BALLER]

Like i said, don't get me wrong. Your build is great, and probably capable of around 500hp, but the current version of the standback is not. People still can't squeeze over 21psi out of the 3071 using the standback, and don't you have the 3076? You lowered the compression inside the cylinder so that you could safely run more boost, but I don't think the standback can make it happen. Maybe the version 2.0 will be able to, but that probably won't be available until 2010.

As far as a standalone that can run di, give motec a call and ask for Jason (I think that's his name). I called him back in January about the 500hp ms6, and he yapped my ear off for an hour and a half. Kinda nerdy about technical details, but a great guy nontheless.

 

[redrocketz]

I've looked around and there aren't any standalones available YET for DI cars even the VAG guys still have to use other forms of software most notably GIAC software. Like Ken said we should have something available in the future for you guys but you have to be patient.

 

[ATE BALLER]

Like I said, call Motec. They've done it. They used secondary injectors to keep up with fueling requirements, but if that's what it takes, then so be it.

 

[redrocketz]

what car did they do it on?

 

[chriscecc914]

all the cp-e ems does is add fuel and adjust timing basically. I dont know why a certain version wouldnt be able to add fuel and pull timing if its available. Who knows.

BTW GHL exhaust was installed today. Next up is tuning.

 

[ATE BALLER]

what car did they do it on?

They installed it on the ms6 that no-one believes exists.

500whp
GT35R
FMIC
SRI
completely open exhaust (no cats or mufflers)
secondary fuel injection
Motec
STOCK MOTOR

The guy I talked to confirmed everything Wiggum and MrTea stated. Motec recieved the the car on a trailer with everything installed except for the standalone. They installed that and set up the maps from scratch. I have no idea how good the tune was, but he said they put about 250 miles on it before they turned it back over to the customer. He also said that he had to thank the customer to no end for giving them a real challenge. I think they did the whole thing for free for that customer in particular, due to who the customer was and to give them some experience with di.

 

[ATE BALLER]

all the cp-e ems does is add fuel and adjust timing basically. I dont know why a certain version wouldnt be able to add fuel and pull timing if its available. Who knows.

BTW GHL exhaust was installed today. Next up is tuning.

It can adjust fuel and timing, but it can't keep the ecu happy enough to stop fuel cut. Josh told me a couple weeks ago that version 2.0 will pretty much be a whole new unit. It should be able to make everything good to go. There's just too many kinks to work out before anyone can really tune some serious power out of this car.

To quote Josh:

"This ECU is an asshole."

 

[chriscecc914]

Here's a cool vid for everyone: http://youtube.com/watch?v=j331H9k-UUI

 

[Powerslave]

cool video!! nice effects with the video editing, I see your not running any boost till you get it tuned did you set your boost control tab to 0 or does the boost come on after 4k?

 

[Sport6]

thats pretty sweet, i like the sound.

(though its not a sweet as your shadow boxing video... haha jp..)

 

[redrocketz]

so there was a 6 with a custom 35rs turbo (which means custom manifold), custom exhaust, custom FMIC, Custom intake, custom standalone, either an injector plate or custom intake manifold, and then it was crushed correct?

and why doesn't MOTEC offer this standalone now? You would think with all that work that was done to the car that they would offer atleast one part they developed for it to the public...

 

[BLACKMS3]

I agree. If they went to the trouble, why not make it available? I like money, maybe they don't?

Motec has been in the game for a long time and if you can afford their stuff, you can rest assured you are dealing with the best.