evo_mr2006
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1killercls said:
nice i like that idea lol
The First Frontmounted CX-7
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nice i like that idea lol
greengoblin
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Take a punch and put dimples from the inside out around the out side edge of each side of your pipes to give your couplers something to grip on. Or if you weld put a bead on the outside edge.
Also hairspray works great too. It makes putting the couplers on easier and after it drys it acts like glue but you can still get them off.
Also hairspray works great too. It makes putting the couplers on easier and after it drys it acts like glue but you can still get them off.
evo_mr2006
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Int3grity said:
dont know yet still working on it i'm haveing my uncle custom bend and weld some pipes for me right now i'm working on the audio and video part of my project
Alpha Wolf
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While I would be the first to agree that the FMIC is more effective and avoids heat soak of the TMIC.
the length and diameter of the plumbing would indicate you will increase the turbo lag. And the loss of the fog lights due to the plumbing are a few reasons this does not look like an option for me.
But nice work in any case.
Basically this is not my race car. I just want as much power as I can get without killing the motor/tranny and still retain all the features of stock.
But I am sure you will make more power than the TMIC or aftermarket ones. Any Dyno charts yet?
So when my Son stops sucking my car/bike money away I will be looking for a bigger TMIC, better BOV and then a EMS that will allow me to install CAE and a good Turbo Back Exhaust system without a CEL coming on and allowing the engine to develop all the power these mods will allow...
the length and diameter of the plumbing would indicate you will increase the turbo lag. And the loss of the fog lights due to the plumbing are a few reasons this does not look like an option for me.
But nice work in any case.
Basically this is not my race car. I just want as much power as I can get without killing the motor/tranny and still retain all the features of stock.
But I am sure you will make more power than the TMIC or aftermarket ones. Any Dyno charts yet?
So when my Son stops sucking my car/bike money away I will be looking for a bigger TMIC, better BOV and then a EMS that will allow me to install CAE and a good Turbo Back Exhaust system without a CEL coming on and allowing the engine to develop all the power these mods will allow...
Very nice work Evo. While I can appreciate all the hard work and time put into your Intercooler, your horsepower numbers from the factory IC on the dyno probably wont be a whole lot different than the front mount. Where you will notice the difference is on that warm summer day when the Top mount IC is completely heat soaked, and just cant cool down, and starts to lose power because of it, whereas your front mount is out there blowing in the wind nice and cold and maintaining similar power all day long regardless of the outside temps. The main advantage of a larger or front mounted IC is the ability to run higher boost and make more power while still keeping the air temps at an acceptable range.
I have run several different sized intercoolers on a dyno at the same boost levels, and with the hood open, and monster fans blowing on them, the difference is negligible, maybe 2 to 5 HP.
Now, take those same intercoolers for a ride using alot of throttle, and you'll definitely feel the difference as the small one heats up and power drops off.
So while it's hard to explain, just bolting on a large IC does not actually add anymore horsepower than what your already making with the stock intercooler (unless your also turning up the boost). What it does do is maintain that HP while the smaller one heats up and loses it's power.
So, although they may both dyno at 200 HP or so, the smaller one may be down at 180HP or so actually driving on a hot day, while the front mount may be at 195HP that same day.
Below is my RX7 intercooler. I just put it in because my smaller one couldnt cool down the heat from running the extra boost, but on the dyno with fans on them, they were almost exactly the same.
I have run several different sized intercoolers on a dyno at the same boost levels, and with the hood open, and monster fans blowing on them, the difference is negligible, maybe 2 to 5 HP.
Now, take those same intercoolers for a ride using alot of throttle, and you'll definitely feel the difference as the small one heats up and power drops off.
So while it's hard to explain, just bolting on a large IC does not actually add anymore horsepower than what your already making with the stock intercooler (unless your also turning up the boost). What it does do is maintain that HP while the smaller one heats up and loses it's power.
So, although they may both dyno at 200 HP or so, the smaller one may be down at 180HP or so actually driving on a hot day, while the front mount may be at 195HP that same day.
Below is my RX7 intercooler. I just put it in because my smaller one couldnt cool down the heat from running the extra boost, but on the dyno with fans on them, they were almost exactly the same.
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evo_mr2006
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yes its helped alil but not much right now im in the works of putting in the turbo upgrade the project is going slow due to me being really busy plus im fabing everything myslef next project is going to be converting the trasmisson to the mazda speed 6 tranny but im haveing a hard time find one right now
evo_mr2006
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so far no i have been haveing problems so i stoped with the front mount now im on hold for a lil cause i have a baby on the way but with tax season on the way im getting the gt3071r kit and the custom exhaust is almost done but i will be waiting to install that in the spring time
Plus i'm checking to see how i can run the pip differently for the people that want to keep there foglights.
NO need to run it differently now, when we have the Led option. (cool)
Check out this... LED Turn Signals in Fog Area PIC HEAVY
Booze Guzzler
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Have you figured how much these motors will take before needing a ECU upgrade ?
Although it is an Old question and old thread altogether I figured i would post to say that your lag on the stock turbo will not be noticeable. There was a guy on a DSM site i frequent who did all sorts of crazy math and pressure difference stuff with 3-4 different setups for 1G DSM's all different pipe lengths/intercooler sizes the lag pretty much couldnt be measured in entire seconds so the change off between a few milliseconds of lag Versus cooler IAT would benefit rather than harm your performance.
