no, ceej would have been perfectly fine if he just said "when lowering your car, do it right." but to take the example of an s2000 and compare it to a protege is just silly. then when alan brought up the more relevant point of the msp having the exact opposite of what ceej stated as necessary for better performance and handling, he went all apeshit and started getting all sarcastic. i thought it was funny, then i posted why the s2000 was revamped the way it was with a direct quote from motor trend. next thing i know, ceej posted in matthew's thread about how this forum is dead because of know-it-all kids like me. and now here we are...