supporting mods and forged internals...

[grcuadros]

in every thread i read about turbo upgrades or making some serious power everybody seems to use the generalization "supporting mods" or "forged internals". i myself have a good image in my mind of what they mean, but i think for the sake of clarification we should get somethin goin in which both generalizations are clearly explained.

IMO supporting mods can range from a fmic to downpipes and a cat back or turbo-back or maybe some extra injectors. forged internals could be just rods and pistons or maybe some serious block work. somebody clear this up.

1. What (specifically) are "supporting mods" say if someone wanted to turn up the boost and hit the 230 whp mark or maybe even higher...

2. What exacly are "forged internals" that would be required to do a turbo upgrade or up the boost to 16psi or so on the stock T25.

i think it will be best for everybody's sake to know exactly what people consider supporting mods and forged internals and such.

 

[pates03]

how i see it is:

supporting mods : any bolt-on mods i.e. hardpipe , CAI , FMIC and etc

forged internals : when i usually here this , the first thing that comes to my mind is a the whole deal ..rods, pistons and block work..

 

[FSDET]

what are you guys talking about

 

[speedhawaii]

forged = a lot stronger than stock
fmic and turboback would be great mods

 

[sickspeed94]

mazda's problem was the let callaway design a turbo kit for a car, then threw the stock protege 2.0 in there. from what i hear, the rods are the first to go, soon as my warranty is up(by then i'll have FMIC and BOOST CONTROL along with the mods in my sig) i'll be throwing some forged rods and pistons in there, and maybe a sleeved block later on in life, then i plan on running ~12 PSi daily, also look into a fuel cut defenser of some sort, and i don't know at 12 PSI if you really need a fuel pressure reducer/regulator, then build your suspension and go AUTOCROSSING DAMMIT! (haven't been yet, turn 18 in a few months though (naughty) )

 

[FSDET]

if ur gonna get a gt28rs i heard u dont need an intercooler is that true ??

 

[low_psi]

mazda's problem was the let callaway design a turbo kit for a car, then threw the stock protege 2.0 in there. from what i hear, the rods are the first to go, soon as my warranty is up(by then i'll have FMIC and BOOST CONTROL along with the mods in my sig) i'll be throwing some forged rods and pistons in there, and maybe a sleeved block later on in life, then i plan on running ~12 PSi daily, also look into a fuel cut defenser of some sort, and i don't know at 12 PSI if you really need a fuel pressure reducer/regulator, then build your suspension and go AUTOCROSSING DAMMIT! (haven't been yet, turn 18 in a few months though (naughty) )

a sleeved block, really now? (lol2)

Callaway did a great job on the turbo system, it was Mazda that released the car with plastic pipes(instead of metal), 6-7psi(instead of 9) and horrible tuning.

when someone says "supporting mods" they are referring to the bolt-ons that allow the car to breathe easier and allow for more power ie. exhaust, intake and fmic would be good supporting mods if you want to run 10psi. i also consider a good fuel/timing controller a supporting mod.

"forged internals" usually refers to beefier rods and pistons. you'll also want to replace the rod bearings, gaskets, studs etc if you want a decent rebuild aswell.

if ur gonna get a gt28rs i heard u dont need an intercooler is that true ??

please tell me you're joking...

 

[grcuadros]

a sleeved block, really now? (lol2)

Callaway did a great job on the turbo system, it was Mazda that released the car with plastic pipes(instead of metal), 6-7psi(instead of 9) and horrible tuning.

when someone says "supporting mods" they are referring to the bolt-ons that allow the car to breathe easier and allow for more power ie. exhaust, intake and fmic would be good supporting mods if you want to run 10psi. i also consider a good fuel/timing controller a supporting mod.

"forged internals" usually refers to beefier rods and pistons. you'll also want to replace the rod bearings, gaskets, studs etc if you want a decent rebuild aswell.


please tell me you're joking...

good response.

 

[grcuadros]

if ur gonna get a gt28rs i heard u dont need an intercooler is that true ??

i heard when pam anderson got her breast implants taken out they put them in britney spears. (lol2)

 

[jurgs01]

if ur gonna get a gt28rs i heard u dont need an intercooler is that true ??

Turbos generate heat. Sending heat into cylinders that generate more heat is not smart. Plus, cool air is more dense and thus you can fit more air into the same amount of space. Our stock IC sucks (drops a lot of pressure, doesn't cool that well, heatsoaks more w/time). An upgrade is a good idea with any turbo.

 

[sickspeed94]

don't ask about the sleeved block, i think it was really late at night when i said that. my appologies.

 

[speedhawaii]

if ur gonna get a gt28rs i heard u dont need an intercooler is that true ??

seriously .. what are u thinking? nfw would i blow my motor using a gt28rs non-intercooled

 

[FSDET]

i heard the BOV can cool down the Gt28 ??

 

[speedhawaii]

im pretty sure that it doesnt. a bov vents the extra air and it suppose to help spin the turbine when u lift off the gas when shifting. (turbine example was from turbo mag im not sure if it works for our cars though)

 

[FSDET]

i wasnt being serious.. thanks for the explanation tho

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

a sleeved block? what? I have a overbored block, what would overboring then sleeving it back to OEM accomplish? Not trying to pick a fight, just wondering why you said that. Like a refurbished motor is overbored, then sleeved "close" to OEM specs..Most refurbished motors are more powerful (not by much, but noticeable) than the original counterpart. Basically a supporting mod is what I'm doing now. Building my motor up properly so I sustain heavy boost and harsh driving conditions without blowing it up. (again)