Sport Compact Car magazine

[Kooldino]

hmm in all reality we all pick cars for our own reasons. I would not buy an evo-x there are other cars i would rather have. im not trying to take anything from it but ther are tons of great cars out there.

Sure, and that's fine. But when guys are trying to say that a clearly inferior car is better, then that's another story.

 

[AAMguy]

 

[Kain]

Sure, and that's fine. But when guys are trying to say that a clearly inferior car is better, then that's another story.

By what criteria? I assume you mean performance potential. I couldn't live with an Evo X trunk, for instance, making it inferior to me in that regard.

 

[Kooldino]

okay, this is getting out of hand, first of all, all I said was I believe that the 4g63 is a better engine than the 4b11,

Based on nothing, mind you...

second, I was saying that in a SUICIDE run, i bet the MZR could hit 600 whp peak hp, what don't you understand about that.

It would explode halfway through the pull and probably wouldn't break 400.

And third, when people disagree, is this how everyone reacts on this forum? Man, since when did we all turn into a bunch of 5th graders.

We're disagreeing because all of the stuff you're claiming is unrealistic and you're not backing it up with ANY fact, research, or real knowledge of what you're saying.

Still think the 4g63>4b11t,

The ONLY thing I can say you're right about is that the highest HP motors out there between the two are 4g63s (which will change in time).

In every other measurable way, the 4b11t is superior.

On a side not, I think if the tri mazda3 in this article started about with a speed3 they could have had a much better platform to start out with.

Not really.

That's like saying my fully built boosted MP3 would have been better off if it started life as an MSP. When in reality, I would have had to remove all of the MSP turbo parts and crappy diff only to do what I needed to do anyway.

 

[AAMguy]

On a side not, I think if the tri mazda3 in this article started about with a speed3 they could have had a much better platform to start out with. Probably could have done alot better in the handling department with better tires too.

are u cereal?


(come on kain thats ur que)

 

[Kooldino]

By what criteria?

Overall.

I assume you mean performance potential. I couldn't live with an Evo X trunk, for instance, making it inferior to me in that regard.

Sure, there will be pros and cons to each car (for instance, i prefer the weight of my mp3 to my Evo), and while I have more love for my mp3, my evo is the superior car.

 

[AAMguy]

my left nut is the superior nut ...

its kind of like that.

 

[dkswim]

in certin applications i would chouse an evo-VII over the X for example if i was just using it for racing and all around fun car. 42k for an X or an VII for 17k

 

[Alexsered]

yeah, but you already have a stiffer chasis, and many of the parts were going to be added to the car regardless, so even if they are replaced, it still would have cost the same for the parts, except that the mazdaspeed3 is a much better start.

 

[Alexsered]

my left nut is the superior nut ...

its kind of like that.

AAMguy, now I know who you are, I totally didn't recognize you with the new profile pic. I miss the part in your profile where you call yourself "I'm kind of a dick" why take that out?

 

[Kain]

are u cereal?


(come on kain thats ur que)

 

[AAMguy]

i felt like changing it up. plus now i can get away with being a nice guy for a minute or two.

 

[Alexsered]

i felt like changing it up. plus now i can get away with being a nice guy for a minute or two.

at least we can agree on one thing. NOBAMA. lol

 

[Kain]

plus now i can get away with being a nice guy for a minute or two.

I don't think you lasted that long, lawl.

 

[AAMguy]

u say lawl to much.

 

[Kain]

My lawls. Let me show you them.

 

[Kain]

While we're on the topic, Edmunds just picked up an '08 Evo X GSR with some AMS mods for longterm testing. Bolt-ons + ECU flash = 370 hp (crank, I'm assuming).

Now if they only offered it in a wagon...

 

[Alexsered]

While we're on the topic, Edmunds just picked up an '08 Evo X GSR with some AMS mods for longterm testing. Bolt-ons + ECU flash = 370 hp (crank, I'm assuming).

Now if they only offered it in a wagon...

I wonder what a GSR and those mods what the price would be. I would assume $50k +?

 

[Kain]

I wonder what a GSR and those mods what the price would be. I would assume $50k +?

What. The MSRP is $33k (not sure what market value is), and the bolt-ons and flash are $2,500. $35.5k for 370 hp, AWD and seats 5 sounds like a bargain to me.

 

[Alexsered]

What. The MSRP is $33k (not sure what market value is), and the bolt-ons and flash are $2,500. $35.5k for 370 hp, AWD and seats 5 sounds like a bargain to me.

thats not bad, how many actually have bought an evo for $33k though? Thats without any options right? The dealerships I went to check them out have been in the $40's, not sure if it was markup or options.