Honda's Elite is 7 passenger; other trims are 8 passenger. The 3rd row has 3 seatbelts.
But then I drove a 2017 Santa Fe yesterday and fell in love.
So the 2017 Santa Fe is on dealer lots while the 2016 CX-9 is still months away. Bad move, Mazda.
So the 2017 Santa Fe is on dealer lots while the 2016 CX-9 is still months away. Bad move, Mazda.
Mazda released the official EPA estimates:
FWD: 22 city/28 highway/25 combined
AWD: 21 city/27 highway/23 combined
Big improvement!
Consumer Reports is very impressed with the re-do, and preliminary reviews are very good for the new T 4.
This is going to be a big hit in the hot mid-sized, 3 row, SUV segment.
The car is being shown to, and driven by, some automotive journalists.
Mazda released the official EPA estimates:
FWD: 22 city/28 highway/25 combined
AWD: 21 city/27 highway/23 combined
Big improvement!
It also has foundations of a an engine that in NA form has revolutionary 13 compression ratio and uses intercooled ex. gas recirculation. 2.5L in my subaru legacy spec b with the most basic turbo design you can think of was designed in the times when dinosours were still roaming the earth...yet it could return 30mpg driving 75mph on the highway easy....with mazda's engine designed literally 20 years later...I can see how those numbers can be close to real life...my bet is that actual city numbers will be lower and hwy numbers will be higher. .as it usually is for turbo charged cars..rendering similar average consumption. Yeh I know it's a heavy car, still...once that mass is moving on the hwy...it becomes much less relevant
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New here and new to Mazdas. I was considering an MDX before I came across some of the early info on the 2016 CX-9 and now I'm intrigued.
I know the information isn't out yet, but based on precedent and your own opinion, what do you think about the two questions below?
- When will we likely see safety ratings for the new CX-9? How close to when they are for sale will that data likely be available?
Any thoughts/speculation is welcome!
New here and new to Mazdas. I was considering an MDX before I came across some of the early info on the 2016 CX-9 and now I'm intrigued.
I know the information isn't out yet, but based on precedent and your own opinion, what do you think about the two questions below?
- When will we likely see safety ratings for the new CX-9? How close to when they are for sale will that data likely be available?
- For the Signature trim, I've only seen references to the auburn nappa leather. Do you think there will be nappa leather offered in other colors? I have seen some of the pictures where it looks nice and others where it looks too "orange".
Any thoughts/speculation is welcome!
The $1,000,000 question is the new 2.5T Skyactive engine--will it be durable? Will it be smooth (as smooth as an MDX? I highly doubt it). There's just no way to tell.
While the 3.5L engine in the MDX is smooth, the 9-speed ZF transmission has been a bit of a troublemaker. I am also considering an MDX (and the Pilot) and the transmission is giving me reason to walk away. The design of this transmission includes dog clutches (mostly used in manual transmissions) that seem to the source of grief with most owners. Acura has continually provided updates to it and the latest update may have done the trick. However, it is also known that Honda has a 10-speed AT waiting on the wings so this 9-speed AT seems to be a stopgap.
This is where a lot of my concerns are as well with the MDX. I've been reading about the transmission concerns and the idea that they are already looking to swap it out for the 10AT as soon as 2018 (2017 w/the Odyssey will likely be the first). Also, the Alabama plant for the MDX seems to be having a lot of general QC issues that weren't there in the RDX (Ohio plant, I believe).
I am a current Acura owner and have always loved my car. That led me to start with an RDX/MDX decision but expand to include the CX-9 Signature trim if it checks a lot of the boxes. And if you compare a CX-9 Signature to an MDX w/Tech, the price difference will be way less than $10k as far as what you'll actually pay.
Even the Pilot Elites vs the MDX Base are very close to each other in my area with the Pilots not selling for much of discount against MSRP and the MDX's selling for a good discount.
Thanks for the input. I'm very anxious to see the CX-9 pricing and trim details for the Signature and also interested to see what the new 2017 MDX looks like in a couple weeks.
Seeing as the Pilot is new this year, and the CX-9 will be brand new, yeah, I can see how prices will be close to MSRP for a while.This is where a lot of my concerns are as well with the MDX. I've been reading about the transmission concerns and the idea that they are already looking to swap it out for the 10AT as soon as 2018 (2017 w/the Odyssey will likely be the first). Also, the Alabama plant for the MDX seems to be having a lot of general QC issues that weren't there in the RDX (Ohio plant, I believe).
I am a current Acura owner and have always loved my car. That led me to start with an RDX/MDX decision but expand to include the CX-9 Signature trim if it checks a lot of the boxes. And if you compare a CX-9 Signature to an MDX w/Tech, the price difference will be way less than $10k as far as what you'll actually pay.
Even the Pilot Elites vs the MDX Base are very close to each other in my area with the Pilots not selling for much of discount against MSRP and the MDX's selling for a good discount.
Thanks for the input. I'm very anxious to see the CX-9 pricing and trim details for the Signature and also interested to see what the new 2017 MDX looks like in a couple weeks.