SMIC Heatsoak

[Jaysanooch]

Looks very good! You may wrap both sides, but the hot side is the critical one. About how thick is the wrap?

Thanks! It's pretty thick but probably a little less than the regular stuff. Your thinking I should double or even triple wrap the hot pipe?

 

[CustomMSP]

Thanks! It's pretty thick but probably a little less than the regular stuff. Your thinking I should double or even triple wrap the hot pipe?

See how the one layer does first.

 

[Notorious_V.I.C]

I went ahead and ordered that adhesive aluminum heat wrap and put some on my hot pipe and cold pipe last night. The weather is still to cold to feel any improvement but I find this stuff looks better than your regular heat wrap.

good job in wrapping the pipes. Where did you get that heat shield from? I have the same intake but am looking for a heat shield.

 

[Jaysanooch]

good job in wrapping the pipes. Where did you get that heat shield from? I have the same intake but am looking for a heat shield.

Thanks man, the heat is an Injen and I needed to buy the Injen filter to make it work. I also needed to change the transition coupler since the heat shield mounts in between the Injen filter base and the coupler, with a t-bolt over all of that. I think it's 3" to 3.5" transition coupler....it all holds together but you can't tighten it to much since the Injen filter has a rubber base, but it works.

I got the heat shield locally but you can find it on the Injen website.

 

[BOOSTR]

I went ahead and ordered that adhesive aluminum heat wrap and put some on my hot pipe and cold pipe last night. The weather is still to cold to feel any improvement but I find this stuff looks better than your regular heat wrap.

Outstanding wrap job. That wrap looks real good on both pipes. (thumb)

 

[Jaysanooch]

Update on the adhesive heat wrap......please note that if you running an extra injector set up, DO NOT put this stuff between the pipe and the coupler.

I didn't see the harm in this but I go to check last night and my cold pipe is moist with gas....freakin scary! I tighten the clamps even more and went for test and still gas. I need to remove the heat wrap in between the coupler and pipe, it never leaked before. I guess metal and rubber kinda melts together slightly which gave me a perfect seal before.

 

[69RMSP]

Have you ever dyno'd your car?

Update on the adhesive heat wrap......please note that if you running an extra injector set up, DO NOT put this stuff between the pipe and the coupler.

I didn't see the harm in this but I go to check last night and my cold pipe is moist with gas....freakin scary! I tighten the clamps even more and went for test and still gas. I need to remove the heat wrap in between the coupler and pipe, it never leaked before. I guess metal and rubber kinda melts together slightly which gave me a perfect seal before.

 

[Jaysanooch]

Have you ever dyno'd your car?

Ya last year with this set up minus the J&S safeguard....I made 196/189 @9.5psi with 13 degree's of timing pulled between (5000-6500rpm).

My timing is a little more agressif now with the J&S...I'll be doing a dyno run soon.

 

[1moreMPH]

ok this thread is great help for the smic vs. fmic debate and after reading through it all ive got a little question. Earlier ya'll were saying that hardpipes are necessary to see gains from upgraded smic/more boost because they expand/pop off/can't handle it. Understandable. If we are a poor college student (lol), would buying JUST a Samco hot pipe be sufficient? Or would this not yield the gains from full hard-piping?

I am much more informed, but i still can't decide what to do!!!;

 

[210_ZOOM]

ok this thread is great help for the smic vs. fmic debate and after reading through it all ive got a little question. Earlier ya'll were saying that hardpipes are necessary to see gains from upgraded smic/more boost because they expand/pop off/can't handle it. Understandable. If we are a poor college student (lol), would buying JUST a Samco hot pipe be sufficient? Or would this not yield the gains from full hard-piping?

I am much more informed, but i still can't decide what to do!!!;

you should check out the www.*************.com website PM JDM Sam for some answers to these questions. He will not steer you wrong.

 

[1moreMPH]

you should check out the www.*************.com website PM JDM Sam for some answers to these questions. He will not steer you wrong.

haha, did that last week. he told me to get a fmic for sure, but i still want to entertain the idea of an SMIC and it's pros/cons/abilities.

 

[CustomMSP]

haha, did that last week. he told me to get a fmic for sure, but i still want to entertain the idea of an SMIC and it's pros/cons/abilities.

All you really want is the samco hotside pipe. The stock coldpipe is good when used with upgraded (bicylce tire tube) seals inbetween the IC and the throttle body.

 

[1moreMPH]

All you really want is the samco hotside pipe. The stock coldpipe is good when used with upgraded (bicylce tire tube) seals inbetween the IC and the throttle body.

ok thanks -- this is what i thought but needed verification. and if you don't mind, where are you located Custom?

 

[1moreMPH]

in regards to all this wrapping pipes talk: An important part of an efficient intercooler is the piping, and ones that do their job as best as possible have a lot of piping because it helps dissipate even more heat from the passing air (That's why large fmic's like the perrin, though a pain in the ass have a lot of piping). This said, why would you wrap the hot pipe? That would cut the air passing over the outside of it (thus taking heat away), and would actually keep the heat energy inside the pipes would it not? Wrapping the cold pipe makes sense, to block it from the hot engine bay, buy why is it good to wrap the hotpipe? Im confused.

 

[CustomMSP]

I'm in LA, CA.

The hotside pipe absorbs all the radiant heat fromt he exhaust system around it. That's why it's best to wrap it. I've noticed a major difference in temperature of the hot side of the intercooler end tank after I wrapped the hotside pipe.

 

[1moreMPH]

oh ok, so the air around the hotside pipe and exhaust system is hotter still than the air inside the pipes? that would make sense then, i just find that hard to believe!

 

[CustomMSP]

oh yea, especially around the turbo outlet, because it's right next to the exhaust manifold.

 

[HBreeder]

Awesome thread! Will be wrapping mine up soon.

 

[1moreMPH]

yes thank you for all the info everyone, this is a good thread. lots of information.

 

[Sleepy]

oh ok, so the air around the hotside pipe and exhaust system is hotter still than the air inside the pipes? that would make sense then, i just find that hard to believe!

Don't forget that while you're sitting at the lights, the compressor isn't heating up the intake air, but there is a lot of radiant heat getting into the pipe (ie heatsoak) and in turn heating the air. So, when boost comes on, the hot pipe can't absorb any heat from the charge air because it's hot already. Same goes for the intercooler and cold pipe.

This is why I'm interested in wrapping and spraying for my turbo kit to cool the parts while in stop/start traffic.