SMIC Heatsoak

[Perro del Sol]

how are you gona get heatsoak on long trips. unless you are boosting the whole time...i dont get it

That was going to be my question.

 

[Knox Joe]

I get heatsoak on my TurboHoses SMIC. (deadhorse

 

[Notorious_V.I.C]

FMIC, isn't really needed IMO, cause when are you going to boost above 10psi, plus if you where i would say EMS and other precatuions are needed. Listen to Wicked, he know's what he is talking about, we both were going to install my MAM FMIC when i had it, plus remember there is more of a pressure drop with a FMIC. I have the Turbo hoses SMIC V2, and can vouch if youd on't plan to boost above 1 bar then stay with that.

IF you can afford a FMIC get it, but chose wisely, I prefer the BEGI FMIC, or if you have the patience, and money Perrin FMIC, just would get the core made smaller to fit the stock numper support. Perrin has the most direct closest to stock piping.

 

[Blake]

Fmic.

 

[jmv]

how are you gona get heatsoak on long trips. unless you are boosting the whole time...i dont get it

well i had it all the time with the stock interwarmer when driving to school. I wouldn't have been boosting at all, but of course by the time i get from my parents house to scool (an hour or more away depending on traffic), theres NO power. The same can and will happen with an upgraded side mount, of course not as quickly due to them being more efficient. I understand the reasons for going with a sidemount, not as much pressure loss easier to replace, etc, but no one will be able to convince me that you get as good airflow to your SMIC as an FMIC.... smic's can still heatsoak. Shoot so can fmic's, but not if you're moving at a steady pace.

 

[mazdaspeedwerx]

but with fmic you get all the ladies thanks to its sexyness. or you get abunch of douche bags saying its fake for some damn reason. I cant tell you guys how many times I have heard that one

 

[jmv]

but with fmic you get all the ladies thanks to its sexyness. or you get abunch of douche bags saying its fake for some damn reason. I cant tell you guys how many times I have heard that one

hahaha, i've gotten that once or twice.

 

[msp35]

That was going to be my question.

Just because you're not accelerating, it doesn't mean the turbo stops flowing. Even when not *in boost* you're still pushing air from the turbo which is warmer than ambien air (usually) It'd only be a matter of time before it'd heatsoak.
FMIC on the other hand has more surface area to disipate the heat. So even on a long trip youd be more likely to warm the smic than a fmic.

 

[crashkelly]

FMIC, isn't really needed IMO, cause when are you going to boost above 10psi, plus if you where i would say EMS and other precatuions are needed. Listen to Wicked, he know's what he is talking about, we both were going to install my MAM FMIC when i had it, plus remember there is more of a pressure drop with a FMIC. I have the Turbo hoses SMIC V2, and can vouch if youd on't plan to boost above 1 bar then stay with that.

IF you can afford a FMIC get it, but chose wisely, I prefer the BEGI FMIC, or if you have the patience, and money Perrin FMIC, just would get the core made smaller to fit the stock numper support. Perrin has the most direct closest to stock piping.

Never once got heatsoak with Turbohoses...I boost 9 psi and very much agree with what V.I.C. said

 

[503MSP]

does the piping matter when it comes to heat soak issues with a SMIC?

 

[PlatinumMSP]

i had a hiboost fmic on my ride, turbo lag from it was bad, i bought a turbohoses smic a couple days ago and its on the way, so i'll let you guys know how it goes.

 

[CnoTataymo]

i had a hiboost fmic on my ride, turbo lag from it was bad, i bought a turbohoses smic a couple days ago and its on the way, so i'll let you guys know how it goes.

I want to know how this goes.

 

[JDM Sam]

Another keypoint is the surface area that is exposed to airflow.

When replacing the side mount in the same stock location, half the core is still covered up by the bumper beam. This doesn't change the fact its covered up still.

If you think a SMIC won't heat soak, go make about a 1 hour drive in traffic in warmer weather where it will be more pronounced and see for yourself.

I run my own custom made FMIC core and can't speak for the other brands out there, but if you want to go fast you want to get a FMIC. Piping size, length, bend radius, does matter along with the core size & fin design in relation to your anticipated CFM air flow, boost level, and hp goals.

Bang per buck ratio here the SMIC is only worth it if you don't care about doing a lot in the long run. Moreover, if you are looking for a slight boost in performance over stock.

 

[210_ZOOM]

i had a hiboost fmic on my ride, turbo lag from it was bad, i bought a turbohoses smic a couple days ago and its on the way, so i'll let you guys know how it goes.

were u at stock boost? What other mods did you have at the time. Just wondering how your lag was that noticeable. Please elaborate, or someone with the same experiences pleas add something.

 

[wicked]

Another keypoint is the surface area that is exposed to airflow.

When replacing the side mount in the same stock location, half the core is still covered up by the bumper beam. This doesn't change the fact its covered up still.

If you think a SMIC won't heat soak, go make about a 1 hour drive in traffic in warmer weather where it will be more pronounced and see for yourself.

I run my own custom made FMIC core and can't speak for the other brands out there, but if you want to go fast you want to get a FMIC. Piping size, length, bend radius, does matter along with the core size & fin design in relation to your anticipated CFM air flow, boost level, and hp goals.

Bang per buck ratio here the SMIC is only worth it if you don't care about doing a lot in the long run. Moreover, if you are looking for a slight boost in performance over stock.

I know what your saying,and I greatly agree,but you seem to think everyone wants to modify their car as much as we have.

the SMIC has a place here for a lot of MSP owners,and it serves it's purpose VERY well.
(BTW,I to run a custom FMIC 9"X28" core.

 

[JDM Sam]

I know what your saying,and I greatly agree,but you seem to think everyone wants to modify their car as much as we have.

the SMIC has a place here for a lot of MSP owners,and it serves it's purpose VERY well.
(BTW,I to run a custom FMIC 9"X28" core.

No, I know some people want simple bolt ons. I'll never understand spending $800 on a SMIC setup and saying its a GREAT improvement over stock.

In summary, I would spend the money to get the FMIC.

 

[BOOSTR]

I'll be the first to admit that I paid too much for hardpipes. I drive up to 2 hours each way commuting and do not suffer from heatsoak. Here in Florida, I think that the heat and humidity are as oppressive as any where in the country. Especially on sun soaked asphalt.

As far as extreme modifying and usuage, who on this forum ran their car harder than BlkZoomZoom. He ran a smic and I do not think that had anything to do with his engine letting go on the dyno.

An upgraded SMIC is great mod stock or not, period.

 

[Notorious_V.I.C]

does the piping matter when it comes to heat soak issues with a SMIC?

I would reccomend it, when you go in boost especially with the plastic pipes, they expand which is not good. And if you plan to boost above stock well, more then likly your pipe will crack, or come off that's what happened to my friends hot pipe.. If you can only afford a SMIC upgrade and can't get a full set of hardpipes try to find a used set or ask someone that is selling there. Or buy the SAMCO hot pipe.

 

[PlatinumMSP]

were u at stock boost? What other mods did you have at the time. Just wondering how your lag was that noticeable. Please elaborate, or someone with the same experiences pleas add something.

at the time I had a GHL turboback exhuast, injen cai, PnP vcts removed intake manifold, unichip with the SU base map, awr motor mounts, plugs, and I ranged in boost from stock to 12 psi. The hiboost increased turbolag at all boost levels. I think it has a lot to do with the poor pipe routing that the hiboost and begi chose for their hot pipe. The MAM and Perrin kits will probably have less lag, but the lag will increase regardless of which kit you go with. A smic will always give you a faster response than a fmic because of the shorter piping on it. It will never cool as much however, it depends on your goals. I was into heavily modding my protege back when i got the hiboost. Now i'm just doing some small comfirt mods. I spent $300 for a used smic btw, $600 for a used hiboost kit.

 

[rocketr2]

at the time I had a GHL turboback exhuast, injen cai, PnP vcts removed intake manifold, unichip with the SU base map, awr motor mounts, plugs, and I ranged in boost from stock to 12 psi. The hiboost increased turbolag at all boost levels. I think it has a lot to do with the poor pipe routing that the hiboost and begi chose for their hot pipe. The MAM and Perrin kits will probably have less lag, but the lag will increase regardless of which kit you go with. A smic will always give you a faster response than a fmic because of the shorter piping on it. It will never cool as much however, it depends on your goals. I was into heavily modding my protege back when i got the hiboost. Now i'm just doing some small comfirt mods. I spent $300 for a used smic btw, $600 for a used hiboost kit.

So it comes to FMIC= Turbo Lagg and SMIC= Heatsoak.
I really cant decide what to get now (shrug)