Should we have concern? *Caliber SRT4 content*

[CX-7owner]

Subjective on the interior?
The level of materials is considerably cheaper compared with the MS3.

The POS comes in with the lack of LSD, Black mirror covers, black trim up on top of the roof, a Gauge that inaccurately measures G-Forces and acceleration times. Handling that trails it's main competition, those brakes also are sub par compared to the MS3's braking.

What is it about "well it's as good as the MS3 because it's very SLIGHTLY faster in the quarter mile" IT'S FULL OF FAIL ELSEWHERE!

 

[CSRT4]

boy you couldn't be more wrong, but of course you can't have too high of expectations from a canadian.

First of all, that is totally uncalled for! Where someone is from has no bearing on anything related to this topic! You actually come out on top looking like the asshat for calling someone out on where they are from. Last Time I checked, the US economy is in the toilets while Canada's is booming. Maybe we arent so stupid after all! Oh and for the Record, Canada is on top of the States, sorta makes you the b**** now doesnt it......

Secondly, After driving the Mazdaspeed3 and the CSRT4 within 20 minutes of each other I found the CSRT4 to be a much better driving experience. The Speed3 has a vague shifter, unsettled ride, and a cramped interior with No sunroof availibe!?!?!? However, the LSD and the DBW are very nicely dialed in for the car.
The Caliber is a nice platform, aside from the BLD (Brake Lock Differential). With nice clean shifts, nice ride, impressive grip and great powerband with an exhaust note to go with it.
The MS3 stickers for $4,000 more than My caliber did with the same options except my Caliber has a 0-60 and 1/4 mile timer, as well a a g-force reader built into the Cluster, oh ya and you can get a sunroof!. Given the cost difference the Speed3 prices itself out of the market in Canada, Im not going to pay $4,000 more for a car that really looks no different than a regualar Mazda3, doesnt have 19'' wheels, and seats that arent as body hugging as the SRT has.

 

[CSRT4]

Let me add on saying that the Braking in the Caliber SRT4 is better than the MS3 just get the brakes warmed up! The black sections on the roof are for areodynamics, who cares if they are black? Accents the colour of my Caliber just right! Oh and a bouns of the CSRT, we will be the last ones laughing when you can get Stage 1 and 2 kits from the dealer which gives more power and DOENST void the Warrenty, Mazda doesnt have you covered there!

 

[CX-7owner]

First of all, that is totally uncalled for! Where someone is from has no bearing on anything related to this topic! You actually come out on top looking like the asshat for calling someone out on where they are from. Last Time I checked, the US economy is in the toilets while Canada's is booming. Maybe we arent so stupid after all! Oh and for the Record, Canada is on top of the States, sorta makes you the b**** now doesnt it......

Secondly, After driving the Mazdaspeed3 and the CSRT4 within 20 minutes of each other I found the CSRT4 to be a much better driving experience. The Speed3 has a vague shifter, unsettled ride, and a cramped interior with No sunroof availibe!?!?!? However, the LSD and the DBW are very nicely dialed in for the car.
The Caliber is a nice platform, aside from the BLD (Brake Lock Differential). With nice clean shifts, nice ride, impressive grip and great powerband with an exhaust note to go with it.
The MS3 stickers for $4,000 more than My caliber did with the same options except my Caliber has a 0-60 and 1/4 mile timer, as well a a g-force reader built into the Cluster, oh ya and you can get a sunroof!. Given the cost difference the Speed3 prices itself out of the market in Canada, Im not going to pay $4,000 more for a car that really looks no different than a regualar Mazda3, doesnt have 19'' wheels, and seats that arent as body hugging as the SRT has.

http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...-caliber-srt4-v-mazdaspeed-3-v-volvo-c30.html

Wow, great seats with more bolstering, an inaccurate gauge, and an SUV interior interior feel, bigger, heavier wheels on a performance wagon, the SRT-4 is perfect for you.

You can have sunroof installed anywhere, it's not rocket science, lots of dealers have sunroofs installed after delivery.

But that's all it has? Some retarded meter, more seat bolstering (the MS3's seats offer a lot of bolstering, you must be pretty "wide") and the fact that it has subtle differences from a regular three? When are you installing a park bench on the back of your SRT-4?

 

[CX-7owner]

Let me add on saying that the Braking in the Caliber SRT4 is better than the MS3 just get the brakes warmed up! The black sections on the roof are for areodynamics, who cares if they are black? Accents the colour of my Caliber just right!

You're right, they must be for areodynamics, whatever the **** that is.


EVEN if they we're there for "areodynamics" which I highly doubt, it's still cost cutting because it's black and not painted, I guess they left the mirror's black for "areodynamics" too? (smash)

 

[CX-7owner]

http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...-caliber-srt4-v-mazdaspeed-3-v-volvo-c30.html
SRT-4=fail.

 

[happy and angry]

The POS comes in with the lack of LSD

An electronic LSD, actually.

Black mirror covers, black trim up on top of the roof

Again, you're questioning the styling - entirely subjective.

a Gauge that inaccurately measures G-Forces and acceleration times

In the same way that a DashHawk inaccurately measures acceleration times, or the G-meter built in to many cars is inaccurate.

Handling that trails it's main competition

But is still a huge step up from the stock Caliber

those brakes also are sub par compared to the MS3's braking.

Longer distances, but better brake fade.

I don't know if you know how to read. Compare what you said:

What is it about "well it's as good as the MS3 because it's very SLIGHTLY faster in the quarter mile"

to what I said in my last post:

I don't think it's as good a package as the MS3 is, and that's why I didn't buy one

The point is, it's a car. It's a fast little hatch that appeals to some people for a lot of little reasons, not the least of which is the performance. It's an entirely subjective subject, and yet you are acting offended that people are buying them. Get over yourself.

 

[Derek88]

I saw one of these for the first time in person yesterday. I like it. It may not can handle like an MS3, look quite as good, or have the fit and finish, but as a tuner car I think it's great.

I dont like it more than a MS3, but I do like it a lot! If I get ripped a new one by one, it wont bother me one bit!

 

[CSRT4]

You really have no room to talk, you drive a CX-7 which is even more of a bloated pig that the Caliber. No driver feedback, Plebian styling, uninspired interior.....Big whoop it has the Same motor as the Speed3 its 10 times uglier then the CSRT4. You can have all the Zoom Zoom you want in something that looks like it should be driven by a menopausal soccer mom who is heading to her friends place to Drink Arbor Mist, and talk about thier bunions!

 

[CX-7owner]

An electronic LSD, actually.Again, you're questioning the styling - entirely subjective.In the same way that a DashHawk inaccurately measures acceleration times, or the G-meter built in to many cars is inaccurate.But is still a huge step up from the stock CaliberLonger distances, but better brake fade.

I don't know if you know how to read. Compare what you said:
to what I said in my last post:The point is, it's a car. It's a fast little hatch that appeals to some people for a lot of little reasons, not the least of which is the performance. It's an entirely subjective subject, and yet you are acting offended that people are buying them. Get over yourself.

I'm sorry, are you calling what SRT calls a "BRAKE LOCK DIFFERENTIAL" an "electronic LSD"? They've clearly stated that their BLD is superior to the mechanical LSD found on the MS3.

I'm appalled that people think that the SRT-4 is better because it can run slightly faster trap times.

The black plastic is more cheapness coming from lopar.

We're not talking about the Dashhawk so don't mention it.

We're not talking about the the base Caliber, so don't mention it.

 

[CX-7owner]

You really have no room to talk, you drive a CX-7 which is even more of a bloated pig that the Caliber. No driver feedback, Plebian styling, uninspired interior.....Big whoop it has the Same motor as the Speed3 its 10 times uglier then the CSRT4. You can have all the Zoom Zoom you want in something that looks like it should be driven by a menopausal soccer mom who is heading to her friends place to Drink Arbor Mist, and talk about thier bunions!

Are we talking about the CX-7?
No.
But you feel the need to mention it because you think the Caliber is better than the CX-7, In reality since you have no real argument as to why the CSRT-4 is better than the MS3 you bring up the CX-7 and compare it to the SRT-4? Something that isn't a competitor?
(rlaugh)
Go back to the SRT forums.

I'm sure the first night you brought that Dodge home all the people in the trailer park came drooling.

 

[CSRT4]

Actually Canada isint infected with mass amounts of Trailer Parks like the States is. Youre right though, when I brought it to my Condo complex, my neighbour's looked over the car for well over an hour. Even the guy down the hall from me who owns a Mazdaspeed6 was Really impressed with the car. I took him for a rip in it last week, and he said it was like a rollercoaster. his words were "This thing is a blast, more refined then my Sons srt4 Neon, but still retains its roots"

And for the Record, you dont own a Speed3 so why the hell are we listening to you???

 

[CX-7owner]

Actually Canada isint infected with mass amounts of Trailer Parks like the States is. Youre right though, when I brought it to my Condo complex, my neighbour's looked over the car for well over an hour. Even the guy down the hall from me who owns a Mazdaspeed6 was Really impressed with the car. I took him for a rip in it last week, and he said it was like a rollercoaster. his words were "This thing is a blast, more refined then my Sons srt4 Neon, but still retains its roots"

And for the Record, you dont own a Speed3 so why the hell are we listening to you???

Can't you answer that for yourself?

 

[happy and angry]

I'm sorry, are you calling what SRT calls a "BRAKE LOCK DIFFERENTIAL" an "electronic LSD"?

No, but Dodge is, and the BSD attempts to do the same thing. As I've already said, I don't like their solution to the torque steer problem, but it works.

I'm appalled that people think that the SRT-4 is better because it can run slightly faster trap times.

Who said anything about "better"? Do I need to quote you what I've already said, AGAIN?

The black plastic is more cheapness coming from lopar.

Subjective, and irrelevent to the SRT-4's merits as a fast vehicle.

We're not talking about the Dashhawk so don't mention it.

I like how you gloss over my larger point that nearly every single built in accelerometer/g-meter are "innaccurate". The innaccuracies of the SRT-4 computer aren't an SRT-4 thing, they are a market wide thing.

We're not talking about the the base Caliber, so don't mention it.

The SRT-4 is built off the base Caliber, just like our MS3 is built off the base 3. The flaws and foibles of these vehicles are in large part dependant on the ones they are derived from. We can't just ignore that and call the SRT-4's interior ugly without making it clear that it's the same interior as the Caliber. It's not like they redesigned an entirely new UGLIER interior for the SRT-4 or something.

As for the article you keep linking to (the one I linked to that discusses the SRT-4's predictable handling), where in the comparison does it say "SRT-4 = LOSE, WORST CAR EVER, ALL PURCHASERS OF THIS DODGE R DUM?" I mean, does it say that? Does it have anything positive to say about the Caliber SRT-4? I mean, if you're going to hold up a Car and Driver comparison to prove the point that the car SUX TOTAL BAWLS DUDE, surely it agrees with your position of WORST VEHICLE EVAR? Doesn't it?

 

[Killer]

OK....lets try to be nice...m'Kay?

 

[AutoXRacer]

Man, you guys are brutal...

Personally, I don't care who's faster, who's got better handling, etc... (blah)
The reason I bought my MS3 is because I liked it; it fit me like a glove.
I personally prefer the finish of the MS3... All personal reasons.

If I see a CSRT-4 on the street taunting me, I will try to smoke it...all in the name of friendly competition. Then pull into a parking lot and talk about our cars.

Its just a car guys... Group hug!!!(group)

 

[Chicoloco]

I think someone was hit with teh ban hammer :-S

 

[boostdog]

Man, you guys are brutal...

Personally, I don't care who's faster, who's got better handling, etc... (blah)
The reason I bought my MS3 is because I liked it; it fit me like a glove.
I personally prefer the finish of the MS3... All personal reasons.

If I see a CSRT-4 on the street taunting me, I will try to smoke it...all in the name of friendly competition. Then pull into a parking lot and talk about our cars.

Its just a car guys... Group hug!!!(group)

I feel the same way! nicely put(rockon)

 

[shane02pro5]

Seriously it is possible to have your own opinions with a bit of respect and not act like children!! The Canadian comment was way out of line! Keep that crap for elementary school!

Look how many Pt Cruisers and HHR's are running around. Even Azteks had their days in the market!

 

[PeterSellers]

Jesus, some of the mazda fanboys posting in this thread are a complete disgrace. Pull the mazda logo out of your ass for 2 seconds, plz. (burp)