Rubbing

Mp5978

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I need some feedback on what I can do or get to prevent my tires from rubbing. I have 215/40/17 with an offset of +43. I know, 45 was correct offset but I love thse wheels. It will only rub if i have 4 or more people in the car. Spring, sway bar, fender rolling I'm willing to try anything. My tires can't take much more of this :'(
 
Mp5978 said:
I need some feedback on what I can do or get to prevent my tires from rubbing. I have 215/40/17 with an offset of +43. I know, 45 was correct offset but I love thse wheels. It will only rub if i have 4 or more people in the car. Spring, sway bar, fender rolling I'm willing to try anything. My tires can't take much more of this :'(

IF the mounting flange is thick enough....you could have your wheels taken to a COMPITENT machine shop and have about 5mm machined off of the flange....then they would fit with no rubbing. other wise.....you got me.
 
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Sir Nuke said:


IF the mounting flange is thick enough....you could have your wheels taken to a COMPITENT machine shop and have about 5mm machined off of the flange....then they would fit with no rubbing. other wise.....you got me.

I don't want to do anything that require lots of work and time. That sort of things really end up costing lots of $$.
The other only way is to go back to stock wheels or get another set of wheels:wtf:
maybe sell it and get some Volks TE-37 ;)
 
I have 18" rims with a offset of 38. I took a dremel tool and shaved the lip off the back two fenders after I lowered my car iht eibach springs, which is a 1.2" drop in the back. I have less rubbing now that what i did before I lowered it. All you need is a dremel tool and a bit for grinding metal. Took me about 30 min to shave the lip sand it down and touch it up with touch up paint. That is the easiest way I can think of.
 
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Mp5978 said:


I don't want to do anything that require lots of work and time. That sort of things really end up costing lots of $$.
The other only way is to go back to stock wheels or get another set of wheels:wtf:
maybe sell it and get some Volks TE-37 ;)

well you ALREADY spent a lot of money on a set of wheels....

just do it RIGHT....

btw...if you remove the lip from the rear fender....it WILL structurally weaken the rear fenders....they will bend and flex easier....and cause damage down the road. I wouldn't recommend doing that.

Get ahold of Rishie, tell him what brand and model of wheel you have....he can probably tell you if you can have them machined or not.

YOU never mentioned what size the wheels are....whether or not they are 7 1/2 or 7's. one thing you could do if they are 7's is go down a size in tire width...that will help a little....go down to 205's

other wise....I think your best bet is to get the RIGHT size wheel to begin with.
 
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll def. look into that the next time i'm at the shop. My car isn't drop. Eibach springs was the next thing I wanted after my rims but that got sratch when the tires started rub. And i forgot to add, only the rear driver side rub. The right side is fine, still rubs but not as much. I'll post up picture soon to show you the damage.
 
I run 215/45/17's and I had a rubbing problem, I ended up rolling the rear fender lips. Took a hammer to them and hammered them to the inside. No more rubbing. Just make sure you coat the inside where the hammer marks are so they don't rust.
 
they are 7's. Sorry for not adding that in the first place. I guess I have to endure the rubbing for now or ride them untill they're really wore out or get a flat, hopfully that doesn't happen, and go with 205 width....damn, i love how the 215 looks though!! :'(
 
have about 5mm machined off of the flange

You probably shouldn't take off quite that much, and don't really need to. Even 2 or 3 mm would help out. Best thing to do is ask the manufacturer. It shouldn't be very expensive to have them machined and really that's the best solution to keep the wheels, save your tires, and not otherwise **** up your car.
 
another thing you didn't mention...and its not in your sig...and it DOES make a difference.....do you have a sedan or a P5?

well since you said that the wheels are 7 inch wide...and they are +43's....then you should be able to get away with only machining out another 2 or 3 mm's as rowan mentioned.....but you may still rub with the 215's and need to change over to 205's......I still don't recommend rolling the fender lips or cutting them out....they are there for a purpose, they actually add ridigity to the fender. it would be one thing if you were trimming them down....but our lips are so small to begin with....once you roll them or "trim" them...they are gone all together.

you see....i am also runing 215's, my wheels are 71/2" wide.....I am lowered on Eibach springs too.....and I don't rub ANYWHERE....at all...even with people in back....of course I got a set of wheels with a +48mm offset too.

(stash)
 
Sir Nuke said:
another thing you didn't mention...and its not in your sig...and it DOES make a difference.....do you have a sedan or a P5?

well since you said that the wheels are 7 inch wide...and they are +43's....then you should be able to get away with only machining out another 2 or 3 mm's as rowan mentioned.....but you may still rub with the 215's and need to change over to 205's......I still don't recommend rolling the fender lips or cutting them out....they are there for a purpose, they actually add ridigity to the fender. it would be one thing if you were trimming them down....but our lips are so small to begin with....once you roll them or "trim" them...they are gone all together.

you see....i am also runing 215's, my wheels are 71/2" wide.....I am lowered on Eibach springs too.....and I don't rub ANYWHERE....at all...even with people in back....of course I got a set of wheels with a +48mm offset too.

(stash)

click on my "www" icon for the pictures of my car. And I agree into what you're saying. Trimming, bending or those sort will permentantly change the look and feel of the car. So I'm going wait off and just get the 205 instead. And if there is a site with PICTURE that show the offset, link it. I'm still wonder how the the bigger the number the better the fitting. I know we have to get an offset of at least +45, but I still don't know how that pervent the tires from rubbing...
 
Mp5978 said:


click on my "www" icon for the pictures of my car. And I agree into what you're saying. Trimming, bending or those sort will permentantly change the look and feel of the car. So I'm going wait off and just get the 205 instead. And if there is a site with PICTURE that show the offset, link it. I'm still wonder how the the bigger the number the better the fitting. I know we have to get an offset of at least +45, but I still don't know how that pervent the tires from rubbing...

let me attempt to explain OFFSET.

WHEEL OFFSET is a measure ment of where the mounting hub of the wheel is in relation to the EXACT center of the wheel, that is if you are looking down on it from the top. IF the mounting flange area is EXACTLY in the center/middle of the wheel the offset is said to be 0/ZERO or Neutral. if the mounting flange is towards the inside of the wheel the offset is said to be NEGITIVE. as the offset gets MORE negitive it moves the tire/wheel OUT away from the car....if the mounting flange is towards the outside of the tire/wheel its said to be POSITIVE and as it gets more positive it moves the tire/wheel closer to the car, thus further under the wheelwell/fender. There is a limit as to how far you can go...as you don't want to have the tires rub on the inside either.....

but as an example...the STOCK mazdaspeed wheels are 17 X 7 with a +55 offset.....

SO....by having a higher offset than you do...it will move the wheel/tire combo further into your wheelwell and under the fender....thus eliminateing the rub of the fender lip on your tire.

here is a picture to help the above explanation

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BTW...some wheel companies call OFFSET by a different term...they call it BACK SPACING....and then they only measure from the back side of the wheel to the mounting flange...so you have to do the math sometimes to figure out exactly what the OFFSET is....
 
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Thanks!!! This really helps alot! If only I knew this before I had my wheels. I wouldn't think +43 will make a difference...but I'm paying the price now. argh! again, thanks for all your response Sir Nuke, it really making sense now. hahah
 
Something doesn't seem right to me.

Are you sure you have 7" rims.

Because Sir Nuke has the same kind of wheels his are +48 offset but they are also 7.5" wide. And he says he dosen't rub.

So, with 7" you should not rub at all with + 43 offset on a 7" rim. Your distance to the fender is the same as Sir Nuke.

Maybe your rim is 7.5", with +43 it will rub for sure.
 
having too wide of a rim wont matter.. that only comes into play if you rub on the inside.. as in close to your strut and in the inner wheel well.
 
yes, it's 17x7. I check it everywhere and all they have are 7" and not 7.5". And the outside rub ONLY when i hit a bump. It doesn' have to be a huge bump and ONLY if there more than 3 people in the car....maybe that will clear some of your questions, Doggone.
 
Doggone said:
Width of a rim matters in relation to the offset.

7.5" with the wrong offset, will rub on the outside.

If that is correct, then my apologies. I've always believed the offset was measured only from the hub part to the outside lip of the rim.. didn't think it had anything to do with the inside. (dunno)
 

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