Protege Garage Turbo Inlet Installed

[Silver Ecstasy]

Yeah Bill, we should take Matt's down again and check for the bottom of the inlet coupler that attaches to the turbo. It's gotta be the culprit. It does such a tight turn, and remember how I made such a big fuss about making sure it's as deep as it possibly can be on there? It was a PITA to do!

 

[MADTIG]

I installed mine about a week ago with my MS cai....haha, wasn't as cake as I expected do to alignment issues. It's in and works GREAT!! but I couldn't manage to tighten the nut all the way thats closest to the tmic. Owell I'll mess with it again when I have time. Overall great piece for a great price! Thanks ken!

Impressions:
*Sounds the same but a little louder. The suction sounds great!
*Turbo def comes on faster than it use to. Most noticeable in 1st and 2nd.
*I get a loud flutter depending on how I ease of the gas. Was actually going to ask you guys if this is normal. I'm using a combo of PG turbo inlet + MS cai + Turbosmart bpv. Bpv tuning??

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

BPV tuning for sure. The Inlet will allow for more boost more often. I'd loosen up the bpv spring a lil more.

 

[MADTIG]

BPV tuning for sure. The Inlet will allow for more boost more often. I'd loosen up the bpv spring a lil more.

Thanks for the quick response! I'll give it a try tomorrow. Is the flutter normal though?

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

Flutter is normal under part throttle boosting then releasing the throttle slowly. If you're releasing under full throttle/boost, then that is NOT a good thing. The BPV is not releasing the pressure fast enough which causes the turbine to spin backwards, causing the flutter sound. Not good.

If it's fluttering as you're letting off partial boost, that's just your bpv having a hard time deciding what position it should be in lol, best description I could come up with.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Got a link to this on the PTG store? (IM me if needed) I looked around, but didn't see it... I might be blind though

http://siteground207.com/~protegeg/product_info.php?products_id=1644

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

Since a majority of you guys are people who have the PG Inlet installed, I have a couple questions regarding my install:

1) The turbo coupler doesn't sit right.
Basically, it kinks when you attach the inlet pipe to it, tighten the clamps down, and bolt up to the engine. The bend puts so much strain on the coupler that it kinks. Anyone else notice this problem? If you feel around the coupler, it's the area near the front that has the kink in it.

2) It rubs against a particular hose that runs from the engine to the firewall.
So once you fit the coupler on, this hose sits almost directly in the path of the inlet pipe. After having it installed for a few days, I decided to check everything out and ended up finding some burn marks from the hose on the inlet pipe. I don't know if this is an issue or a potential issue, but I'm not sure I like it much.

Not my picture but used for as an example.

Climate changes a lot here and I don't want my hose blowing up in the middle of winter because of engine heat and whatever that hose is doing for the interior since it connects to the firewall.

 

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

It rubs against a particular hose that runs from the engine to the firewall.
So once you fit the coupler on, this hose sits almost directly in the path of the inlet pipe. After having it installed for a few days, I decided to check everything out and ended up finding some burn marks from the hose on the inlet pipe. I don't know if this is an issue or a potential issue, but I'm not sure I like it much.

I had to push that same hose out of the way as well. I`ll be taking it all out again this weekend to get access to put in an MBC and aftermarket wastegate actuator. I`ll inspect everything then and see how it all looks.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

FYI, feel free to write a review of your inlet here

http://siteground207.com/~protegeg/product_reviews.php?products_id=1644

 

[H3br3w_Ham3r]

FYI, feel free to write a review of your inlet here

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Nice advertising!

 

[TheDoc]

Since a majority of you guys are people who have the PG Inlet installed, I have a couple questions regarding my install:

1) The turbo coupler doesn't sit right.
Basically, it kinks when you attach the inlet pipe to it, tighten the clamps down, and bolt up to the engine. The bend puts so much strain on the coupler that it kinks. Anyone else notice this problem? If you feel around the coupler, it's the area near the front that has the kink in it.

2) It rubs against a particular hose that runs from the engine to the firewall.
So once you fit the coupler on, this hose sits almost directly in the path of the inlet pipe. After having it installed for a few days, I decided to check everything out and ended up finding some burn marks from the hose on the inlet pipe. I don't know if this is an issue or a potential issue, but I'm not sure I like it much.

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Climate changes a lot here and I don't want my hose blowing up in the middle of winter because of engine heat and whatever that hose is doing for the interior since it connects to the firewall.

I've installed about half a dozen of these now and haven't encountered either of those problems.

My immediate thought is that the two are related- the coupler being kinked and the contact with the hose could both be a direct result of the pipe not being seated properly in the coupler.

The hose you're talking about does not come in contact with the stock inlet, and while this part is a little wider, every one that I've put in has cleared the hose, if not by a very slight margin.

My advice would be to try and reseat the pipe inside the coupler. Despite the grommet up top dictating the pipe's position, there is a bit of play to be had.

The coupler is likely kinked because of the angle that the pipe is cut on the turbo-end- it's fairly sharp. Just remember that the longer end (the side closest to the firewall) should be inserted as far into the coupler as possible. The one I put on my car actually makes slight contact with the turbo.

I hope this helps.

- Justin

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Nice advertising!

edited, wrong link haha

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

I've installed about half a dozen of these now and haven't encountered either of those problems.

My immediate thought is that the two are related- the coupler being kinked and the contact with the hose could both be a direct result of the pipe not being seated properly in the coupler.

The hose you're talking about does not come in contact with the stock inlet, and while this part is a little wider, every one that I've put in has cleared the hose, if not by a very slight margin.

My advice would be to try and reseat the pipe inside the coupler. Despite the grommet up top dictating the pipe's position, there is a bit of play to be had.

The coupler is likely kinked because of the angle that the pipe is cut on the turbo-end- it's fairly sharp. Just remember that the longer end (the side closest to the firewall) should be inserted as far into the coupler as possible. The one I put on my car actually makes slight contact with the turbo.

I hope this helps.

- Justin

I have now installed 3 and uninstalled all 3 and reinstalled them. There is contact no matter what. The one on my car being the least of those contacts. I have also noticed that every inlet is different in some way or another. They are not completely uniform. The cuts on the turbo end are all different. Some more angled than others. Also, the couplers are different lengths. The coupler length and angle cut at the turbo end is dictating the crimp in the coupler because it isnt filling the coupler out. Also, the black tube that runs below the inlet is going to rub no matter what. If that bothers anyone (doesnt bother me) then heat tape or exhaust tape (header wrap) can be added and cure the problem of the hose rubbing on the inlet and leaving black marks. Dont want to and am not bashing anything, I love my inlet and am happy with the performance gains but the quality control on uniformity could be a bit better. Also, there seems to be some cut metal or punched metal left on the inside of some of these. I have seen one this way. There is no way a back yard mechanic would be able to get it out and it doesnt seem like it would come loose but worry about what would happen if it did...
Other wise a very affordable and noticeable mod, I am happy thus far.

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

I'm hoping to take a 2nd stab at re-installing my Inlet once I get my replacement and coupler from Ken. I do not like how the coupler is kinked and don't want to develop any problems with cracking the coupler over time, especially in the colder climates.

I almost wonder if I should have gotten the Cobb TIP instead...(but I love the PG inlet!!....damnit!!)

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

I've installed about half a dozen of these now and haven't encountered either of those problems.

My immediate thought is that the two are related- the coupler being kinked and the contact with the hose could both be a direct result of the pipe not being seated properly in the coupler.

The hose you're talking about does not come in contact with the stock inlet, and while this part is a little wider, every one that I've put in has cleared the hose, if not by a very slight margin.

My advice would be to try and reseat the pipe inside the coupler. Despite the grommet up top dictating the pipe's position, there is a bit of play to be had.

The coupler is likely kinked because of the angle that the pipe is cut on the turbo-end- it's fairly sharp. Just remember that the longer end (the side closest to the firewall) should be inserted as far into the coupler as possible. The one I put on my car actually makes slight contact with the turbo.

I hope this helps.

- Justin

Thanks for the help Justin.

When I got mine in the mail, it seemed like it had such an awkward angle cut to it. Almost like it was too short to the point where one angle would not seat fully into the coupler, but the other side would.

I guess I don't know just exactly how deep the inlet is supposed to go into the coupler, to know if it's appropriately installed, but I know that everytime I tried seating the inlet into the coupler, then bolting it onto the engine, it would kink the coupler in a bad way.

I almost want to unplug everything and bolt the inlet to the mounting point and see how everything lines up visually, without the coupler onto the turbo and with the MSCAI out of the way.

Hopefully my replacement will come soon and i'll get a chance to re-install this and hopefully not have it sit ontop of that hose either.

Thanks again Justin!

 

[Saskatchewan17]

Are there any proven power gains from having an inlet? The drivability and smoothness are awesome, but are there any real gains? Just wonderin.

 

[kendon]

curious about actual numbers from an intake and inlet myself. anybody? i haven't seen any and it seems like it may be a bit of a waste of dyno run to the average person. ken, do you guys have a dyno at your shop?

if anyone is on the fence about purchasing this product, just buy it. buy it. enjoy it. if you have a speed 6 be thankful the engine bay is roomier than the 3's. live life. be happy. play some gta or betray a ton of people in halo 3 to the point you can't rank up any higher than 1 due to the fact you went so in the negative from killing team mates. (teammates? one word or two?)

 

[boosted1]

I'm hoping to take a 2nd stab at re-installing my Inlet once I get my replacement and coupler from Ken. I do not like how the coupler is kinked and don't want to develop any problems with cracking the coupler over time, especially in the colder climates.

I almost wonder if I should have gotten the Cobb TIP instead...(but I love the PG inlet!!....damnit!!)

I went with the Cobb TIP and the install was a breeze.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

i do not have a dyno but i do have several shops locally i have worked with who do have one.

 

[Wurf]

I thought I'd seen some numbers previously that a similar inlet made by another company added about 5hp.