protege 5 vs matrix?

ISNT THE XRS DIRECT COMPETITION TO THE MP3 AND MAZDASPEED...IT'S GOT A SOUPED UP ENGINE. HE MIGHT BEAT YOU IN A STRAIGHT LINE BUT ONCE THE ROAD GETS CURVY IT'S BYE BYE MATRIX :)
I THINK THE BASIC MATRIX XR WITH THE 130HP WOULD BE OK TO RACE....
BUT STILL RACE HIM ANYWAY. TELL US HOW IT WENT.
 
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guys, MP5 is definitly a sexy looking 4 door vechicle, it is probly the best hatchback ever invented...

tho it looks sporty, it is not a racer. i m not into racing so i ll get a MP5. If you want racing you should look into another car.

you can get a much better performance car at the same $ if you go for an american car !
 
i agree, any dude here who wants to drag race and wants to go 0-60 in 2 seconds is probably driving the wrong car. the pro5 is an excellent all around car. it was designed to complement your lifestyle....to become your friend :D

get the mazdaspeed or some other souped up sports car.... thats what they was designed for!
the pro5 has enough zoom zoom for me!
 
monki said:
XRS's engine is 180 HP, 130 torque, 6 speed, MSRP 25,3xx
MP5's engine is 130 HP, 135 torque, 5 speed, MSRP 20,1xx

based on that, he should beat you consider how much he want to kick your ass.

You need to consider usable HP. The way the Matrix is geared is horrible, and it doesn't let you take full advantege of the 180hp. Alsp the HP peak is really high on the Matrix, so to get any kind of performance out of it you have to flog the hell out of it. Since the peak is so high, they can't rev much farther than the peak so they can't drop back down in the powerband when they shift.
 
KYREDP5 said:

You need to consider usable HP.

What do you mean by that ? What is the usable HP of Matrix ? 172 HP ?? what about MP5 ? 129 HP ??

The way the Matrix is geared is horrible, and it doesn't let you take full advantege of the 180hp.

Can you elaborate on this? Any benchmarks? Coz, I am sure many of the Mp5 lovers like to know... are you implying the way Mp5 geared up is much better, and how?

If Matrix can only goes 85% while Mp5 can go 95%, Matrix still beat the hell out of Mp5, racing wise. (and we win in all other categories :) )
 
Just do it. Race him and let us know. :D

I'm sure I could take on an XRS in my Miata(which has 140hp/ 6spd, weighs 2300lbs). I eat RSX-S's, MR2 Spyders, and Accords for breakfast. :D

Movieline
You eat pieces of s*** for breakfast?!
(rofl)
 
monki said:


What do you mean by that ? What is the usable HP of Matrix ? 172 HP ?? what about MP5 ? 129 HP ??



Can you elaborate on this? Any benchmarks? Coz, I am sure many of the Mp5 lovers like to know... are you implying the way Mp5 geared up is much better, and how?

If Matrix can only goes 85% while Mp5 can go 95%, Matrix still beat the hell out of Mp5, racing wise. (and we win in all other categories :) )


It's not like a percentage thing. One of the members explained it better than I did, but I can't find the post. It was something to the effect of to get to a good speed to shift into third, you need to go past the rev-limiter (which obviously you cant do). So you always drop way out of powerband whin you shift. Hence you can not take full advantage of all the HP.
 
No disrespect to anyone in here but an Matrix XRS will smoke a P5!!! I know I have them both and both in 5sp and 6sp configurations!! The P5 handles extremely well and better then the stock for stock XRS but when you change out springs on both it becomes very even. The XRS does have the power advantage.
I can be found in Harrisburg PA if you doubt what I am saying. Road course or lite to lite its your choice. RX7's are still the best.
timbwell73@hotmail.com
 
yeah,the matrix does look like a mini-suv..
i always see lder ladies driving them.
also, lets not forget the matrix xrs is much more expensive then the p5.
 
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honestly, I wanted to get Matrix when it was on the magazines, but when I saw the matrix in person, I was like no way!!! no Way!!!
too tall to be sports wagon.
sure, they have mose base power than us but, still it is mini SUV lol :)
 
Bijou-MP5 said:
honestly, I wanted to get Matrix when it was on the magazines, but when I saw the matrix in person, I was like no way!!! no Way!!!
too tall to be sports wagon.
sure, they have mose base power than us but, still it is mini SUV lol :)

i m thinking exactly the same thing as u
 
True the Matrix is much larger, the 180 hp isnt even useable anyways. I do hear it can handle well thoe.
 
its taller and bigger, but it isnt too much heavier
they do have 180HP that is the fact
it still beat the crap out of mp5 in terms of usable HP, that is another fact...

why are we denying it? do we really think that a slightly better gear can overcome a 50 HP of differences ??
 
Can I Slap you really hard?
I was talking about looks, not the performance.
if you can't support our lovely proteges then get out!!!
 
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