Potential MazdaSpeed 3 Owner...need help!

[serialtoon]

Hello everyone i just joined up on here seeing as im looking into a Mazda 3 Mazdaspeed version. I currently drive a 04 Toyota Matrix and its such a big slouch! I cannot take it anymore so i started looking at Subaru STi as i want more power. Then i saw thier warranty and its not the best at 3 years or 30,000 miles. So i looked elsewhere. Then i remembered there is a Mazda 3 with a turbo coming out hitting over 250HP and 280Lbs TQ. I was IMPRESSED as i felt jelous when the M3 came out and i had already bought my Matrix. Truth be told, i LOVE wagons . So i wanna stick with it. My Matrix does everything right, except for the performance. So i was browsing around these forums and saw that there is a link with a stock dyno of the M3 and the numbers and not as impressive as they make it seem. Is this true? What are your guys/gals input on the M3?

 

[serialtoon]

Hello everyone i just joined up on here seeing as im looking into a Mazda 3 Mazdaspeed version. I currently drive a 04 Toyota Matrix and its such a big slouch! I cannot take it anymore so i started looking at Subaru STi as i want more power. Then i saw thier warranty and its not the best at 3 years or 30,000 miles. So i looked elsewhere. Then i remembered there is a Mazda 3 with a turbo coming out hitting over 250HP and 280Lbs TQ. I was IMPRESSED as i felt jelous when the M3 came out and i had already bought my Matrix. Truth be told, i LOVE wagons . So i wanna stick with it. My Matrix does everything right, except for the performance. So i was browsing around these forums and saw that there is a link with a stock dyno of the M3 and the numbers and not as impressive as they make it seem. Is this true? What are your guys/gals input on the M3?

Wow....no one?

 

[Donas64]

Seriously. It's like the Matrix, but better looking, much faster, better handling, its got torque oh yeah and it's much faster. If you can afford one, get it. You won't be dissapointed!

 

[Captain KRM P5]

the matrix handles like a brick and is uglier than sin IMO. the mazdaspeed3 compared to even an XRS matrix is no comparison. i have driven both; the mazdaspeed3 drives better, rides better, shifts better and feels nicer on top of being much faster. you will not regret putting your cash down for this one.

now if there were an STi wagon....

 

[serialtoon]

Well i think the Matrix has excellent handling. Although i did test drive the M3 and its slightly better. As for the looks i love the M3 but the Matrix is not ugly. Its dead sexy....just SLOW!!! Im gonna see if i can test drive the Mazdaspeed version today. I got a quote and they must of thought i was some kind of idiot as they wanted 26,700US$ plus fees.

 

[Donas64]

Hey you asked for opinions and you got em.

Matrix + Dead Sexy = Oxymoron

 

[rigit]

What was not so impressive about the dyno? seriously everycar is going to have 15-20% drivetrain loss. So are you accounting for that? get the MS3 you will be getting more smiles per gallon than anything remotely in its price range.

 

[serialtoon]

Hey you asked for opinions and you got em.

Matrix + Dead Sexy = Oxymoron

I did ask for an opinion...about the MazdaSpeed 3...not how my Matrix looks. But thanks anyways....As for the Dyno i wonder how accurate it is. Its a huge loss for a FWD car.

 

[Rennoc]

a lot of the dynos on here arent accurate becuase they were not set up to handle a TMIC, they do not handle them as well as FMIC

 

[serialtoon]

a lot of the dynos on here arent accurate becuase they were not set up to handle a TMIC, they do not handle them as well as FMIC

Ok, this makes sense. Its probably the best answer on here so far. Thanks! Im gonna go ina few minutes and take a look at that MSP3. See if i can get a test drive outta it.

 

[clos561]

definitely get a speed3, its badass...who seriously drives a matrix...i know a few chicks that do.....

 

[floatingspirit]

No Brainer!

Dude,

There is nothing even remotely similar between a MSP3 and a Matrix except maybe the number of doors! It sounds and drives like a Porsche in the sense that it's powerful, holds corners and runs solid. It sounds puuuurrrrrity and looks even better. The red seems to attract some gazes too

 

[serialtoon]

Dude,

There is nothing even remotely similar between a MSP3 and a Matrix except maybe the number of doors! It sounds and drives like a Porsche in the sense that it's powerful, holds corners and runs solid. It sounds puuuurrrrrity and looks even better. The red seems to attract some gazes too

I see you got yours at Galpin Mazda, what kind of deal did you get? Im going there tomorrow. I have an appointment.

 

[serialtoon]

I pretty much have a choice here. STi, Evolution or MazdaSpeed 3. I can afford all of these, but i love the Mazda 3 for some reason. Only problem im having is all these idiots keep on trying to make some serious money off me. For a car that starts at 23K how they end up with "its 30K out the door" is beyond me.

 

[jbiird317]

I pretty much have a choice here. STi, Evolution or MazdaSpeed 3. I can afford all of these, but i love the Mazda 3 for some reason. Only problem im having is all these idiots keep on trying to make some serious money off me. For a car that starts at 23K how they end up with "its 30K out the door" is beyond me.

for 30k, i would be out the door on my way to the suubie dealer to pick up my new sti......

not that the ms3 isnt sweet, but 30k, damn

 

[serialtoon]

for 30k, i would be out the door on my way to the suubie dealer to pick up my new sti......

not that the ms3 isnt sweet, but 30k, damn

Exactly. This is the only thing holding me back right now. These idiots want too much for this car. I mean i know its "hot" right now, but they are gonna do what they did to the RX-8 and the Mazdaspeed 6. Priced them outta the market and now they are practically giving them away.

 

[slammie]

I pretty much have a choice here. STi, Evolution or MazdaSpeed 3. I can afford all of these, but i love the Mazda 3 for some reason. Only problem im having is all these idiots keep on trying to make some serious money off me. For a car that starts at 23K how they end up with "its 30K out the door" is beyond me.

Where do you live? In MN, MS3's are at least $750 off MSRP, which is still too much, but a whole lot better than 30k. I'm picking mine up in February and will get market value in the area, which will hopefully be even lower. I'm also hoping S-plan (1800 off a GT give or take a few bucks) will be in effect then.

 

[serialtoon]

Where do you live? In MN, MS3's are at least $750 off MSRP, which is still too much, but a whole lot better than 30k. I'm picking mine up in February and will get market value in the area, which will hopefully be even lower. I'm also hoping S-plan (1800 off a GT give or take a few bucks) will be in effect then.

Im in Los Angeles, CA

 

[Brian MP5T]

I did ask for an opinion...about the MazdaSpeed 3...not how my Matrix looks. But thanks anyways....As for the Dyno i wonder how accurate it is. Its a huge loss for a FWD car.

The ECU limits HP in the first three gears to limit wheel spin.

If it isn't dynoed in 4+ then the numbers ore going to be much lower.

 

[WRCprotege]

here in louisville ky the dealer is gitting a black one in, in a few weeks, the red one on the floor that looks sooooo good has been sold.. also they are sell them for sticker... so find a dealer that has what you want and fly to them and drive back.. save $$$