pix of my broken ankle/leg.... *56k/ppl who dont like gross stuff warning*

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yeah, so I run track for the university of houston... and monday we were doing pole vault (i do the decathlon, so I do 10 different events), and everything was going good.. I planted the pole, went up, and landed, but, when I landed, I landed standing up, b/c I didnt do a complete vault, i didnt swing up.. just bent the pole, and drove through it... (if you have ever seen polevaulting, you know what i mean)...

anyway, so I landed on the matt, with my foot sideways... and POP!!!! rolled all the way over.... here is the aftermath....

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p.s. I realize i dont have the prettiest feet in the world.... but running track for 10 years kinda does that to them.....
 
oh yeah.. the doctors (ive seen 3 thus far) cant tell what is wrong.. they have x-rays, that show there could be a crack in my fibbia (spelling), but its to swollen to feel around on it... so, they are going to wait a week, then check on it again when the swelling goes down... its either a cracked fibbia, torn ligaments, or a severe sprain... either way, rehab sux...
 
Dude I feel for you. That sucks. When I ran track in HS a kid on my team was running next to me down the final 30 meters of the 200 meter sprint and his muscles ripped part of his hip off, nastiest thing ever.

I tore my ACL in my left knee a couple years back and that was SUCKY! Good luck with everything. Hopefully if it is broken they can set it and stuff and get you healty quickly.

Again good luck and have a healthy speedy recovery.

Pete
 
Bummer dude, that big time sucks.

Haze....a similar thing happened to me, yet it wasn't real sudden or dramatic. Doctors said it was a fluke thing for me because i was running a longer event (800) and it didn't just pop.

I was hauling ass compared to a normal pace as part of a 4x8. I came around 200 and my hip started to tighten up. It just kept getting tighter and tighter so I stopped. Turns out the muscle pulled away from the bone and took a chunk of bone with it. For about 2 weeks before hand the front of my hip bone had a "bruised feeling to it," but didn't seem like a big deal.

The pain was much more severe in the days after than at the time it happened. Maybe it was adrenaline. But the next day as I was laying around icing I realized that when laying flat on my back I couldn't lift my leg. It was bad.

Anyways, hip injuries suck. You can't immobilize the hip and still function, so for two months I walked around school like the goofiest **** in a fair amount of pain.
 
Likely not to be a serious fracture since you can weightbear on it. Also, if any bone is broken, it is likely to be the fibula (the smaller of the two found on the outside), and not the tibia (again, because you are able to weightbear). Furthermore, the syndesmosis (the soft tissue between the two bones that keeps your ankle together) is likely not to be disrupted, unless you have some pain up near your knee on the outside of that leg. If there is a fracture, it is probably either an avulsion (muscle tore off its attachment from the bone) fracture at the base of the fibula, or an undisplaced/minimally displaced (moved from its original location) fracture in the same spot. Either way, R-I-C-E (rest, immobilization, cold, elevation) would be appropriate. If there is a fracture you should have it addressed properly. I'm not sure who the MD's that you saw were, but make sure that you see a good Orthopaedic Surgeon, who specializes in Sports Medicine. Soft tissue injuries (sprains, ligaments, etc.) typically take about 6 weeks to heal while fractures can take between 6-8 weeks to heal. Then there is, of course, physio/rehab after that to restore your normal joint movement and strength.

Just my $0.02, and for you its free. No consultation fee...LOL!


R
 
Rainman said:
Likely not to be a serious fracture since you can weightbear on it. Also, if any bone is broken, it is likely to be the fibula (the smaller of the two found on the outside), and not the tibia (again, because you are able to weightbear). Furthermore, the syndesmosis (the soft tissue between the two bones that keeps your ankle together) is likely not to be disrupted, unless you have some pain up near your knee on the outside of that leg. If there is a fracture, it is probably either an avulsion (muscle tore off its attachment from the bone) fracture at the base of the fibula, or an undisplaced/minimally displaced (moved from its original location) fracture in the same spot. Either way, R-I-C-E (rest, immobilization, cold, elevation) would be appropriate. If there is a fracture you should have it addressed properly. I'm not sure who the MD's that you saw were, but make sure that you see a good Orthopaedic Surgeon, who specializes in Sports Medicine. Soft tissue injuries (sprains, ligaments, etc.) typically take about 6 weeks to heal while fractures can take between 6-8 weeks to heal. Then there is, of course, physio/rehab after that to restore your normal joint movement and strength.

Just my $0.02, and for you its free. No consultation fee...LOL!


R
i cant put ANY weight on it.. the pic of my feet side by side , im sitting down.. i tried to put some weight on it today and almost passed out....

and yeah, my athletic trainers are doing all sorts of s*** during rehab.. its already getting better I can tell... the pain killers are prolly doing most of the help ;)
 
most likely the fib, i broke mine playing basketball looked just like that!! 6 weeks...good as new, after the cast of course!!
 
Did an orthopedic doc or radiologist read the x-rays?

the fibula, smaller bone on the lateral/outside part of the leg, usually brakes with a broken ankle being the weakest bone but it just depends on the trauma itself

you may need a CT (cat scan) if a fracture or possible fracture needs to be further evaluated from plain x-rays
hard to say but if you can't bear any weight something is not right

fyi - the smallest fractures sometimes require surgey. example being avulsion fracture of lateral malleolus resulting in a screw placement

who are the three docs you went to with no results? Larry, Moe, and Curly
 
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Witchdoktor said:
Did an orthopedic doc or radiologist read the x-rays?


^^^ My thoughts exactly!

Witchdoktor said:
you may need a CT (cat scan) if a fracture or possible fracture needs to be further evaluated from plain x-rays
hard to say but if you can't bear any weight something is not right

True enough, although at least they took the XR (Ottawa Ankle Rules: Inability to WB at time of injury or in ER = XR). In our institution we don't routinely CT ankles if they are routine bimalleolar/trimalleolar fractures. If they are more serious (e.g. tibial plafond/pilon fractures) then we do get a CT. Bimalleolars/trimalleolars go to the OR for ORIF =/- syndesmotic fixation if intra-op manipulation proves there to be syndesmotic instability.

Witchdoktor said:
fyi - the smallest fractures sometimes require surgey. example being avulsion fracture of lateral malleolus resulting in a screw placement

That is true to a certain extent. Small avulsions can be treated non-op in a SLC or Aircast if there is only minimal (<1-2 mm displacement). However, larger amounts of displacement require fixation of some sort if the fracture fragment is large enough to accept a screw. In our institution, if we are going to fix the lateral malleolus then we use a 6- or 7-hole plate (1/3 semi-tubular or an LC-DC plate) contoured to the distal fibula with 2x3.5mm cancellous screws angled obliquely through the distal plate in a proximal direction from the distal fragment and 3x3.5mm cortical screws transverseley through the plate across both cortices of the fibula in the proximal fragment. We use one of the remaining holes for the single 4.5 mm syndesmosis screws. Most guys go through all 4 cortices with the syndesmotic screw, but we just reviewed a paper at journal club which suggested that 2x3.5 mm tricortical screws was no different at one year and allowed patients to walk earlier.

R
 
Rainman said:
^^^ My thoughts exactly!



True enough, although at least they took the XR (Ottawa Ankle Rules: Inability to WB at time of injury or in ER = XR). In our institution we don't routinely CT ankles if they are routine bimalleolar/trimalleolar fractures. If they are more serious (e.g. tibial plafond/pilon fractures) then we do get a CT. Bimalleolars/trimalleolars go to the OR for ORIF =/- syndesmotic fixation if intra-op manipulation proves there to be syndesmotic instability.



That is true to a certain extent. Small avulsions can be treated non-op in a SLC or Aircast if there is only minimal (<1-2 mm displacement). However, larger amounts of displacement require fixation of some sort if the fracture fragment is large enough to accept a screw. In our institution, if we are going to fix the lateral malleolus then we use a 6- or 7-hole plate (1/3 semi-tubular or an LC-DC plate) contoured to the distal fibula with 2x3.5mm cancellous screws angled obliquely through the distal plate in a proximal direction from the distal fragment and 3x3.5mm cortical screws transverseley through the plate across both cortices of the fibula in the proximal fragment. We use one of the remaining holes for the single 4.5 mm syndesmosis screws. Most guys go through all 4 cortices with the syndesmotic screw, but we just reviewed a paper at journal club which suggested that 2x3.5 mm tricortical screws was no different at one year and allowed patients to walk earlier.

R
(RTM)...yea...what he said.
 
xelderx said:
Do you concur...Dr. Witch Doctor?
I concur with half of it and the other half I'll go ahead and concur as well being I have no idea as it's way out of my league (bow)

I can help diagnose (radiology) but not fix it. If I could fix it you'd see my ass on lexus.com

Rainman - what the hell are you doing driving a protege? lol
 
And this is what happened to my feet last year, after running 5 miles on a brand new pair of high top shoes; ouch!
 

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milmoejoe said:
And this is what happened to my feet last year, after running 5 miles on a brand new pair of high top shoes; ouch!
Holy **** that looks awful.
 
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