PG Pump Installed

sick, my next mod. nicely done. killer trap. I told those fags on srtforums. dyno that thing like now.

man those srt guys are gay! anything that's in the same class as the srt and goes faster is a piece of crap in there opinion. they love to toot there own horn but can never share the stage with something that they might think would be faster.....dare i say - the ms3 has stolen the srt-4 neons thunder?!?!? (attn) I am glad to see better cars coming down the pipe line...the ms3 is a great car! ( just not as good as my wrx (boom08)) hahahahahha
 
moved this to the FI forum instead of the ECU section.... good stuff there laloosh i have been very impressed with the response to bolt ons with these cars now just had a mani to it.
 
Sick, sick times Laloosh. But I'm slightly confused (happens all the time ;)). The last time you went to the track you got 13.4 @ 106mph? And all you did to get 12.9 @ 111 was add the fuel pump? I thought you also changed your tune recently and pulled a ton of fuel from the map.

And now that you're holding boost longer, is the throttle plate staying open longer as well? I believe the throttle plate closing in the upper rpms was the major cause of the boost dropping off. Maybe now that you have more fuel available, the ECU no longer closes the throttle plate. Can you log throttle position with the standback?
 
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Sick, sick times Laloosh. But I'm slightly confused (happens all the time ;)). The last time you went to the track you got 13.4 @ 106mph? And all you did to get 12.9 @ 111 was add the fuel pump? I thought you also changed your tune recently and pulled a ton of fuel from the map.

And now that you're holding boost longer, is the throttle plate staying open longer as well? I believe the throttle plate closing in the upper rpms was the major cause of the boost dropping off. Maybe now that you have more fuel available, the ECU no longer closes the throttle plate. Can you log throttle position with the standback?

13.4 @ 106 was done with i/tbe/ems at 17psi.
12.9 @ 111 was done with i/tbe/ems at 18psi (everythign zeroed out)/fuel pump. The pump and 1 extra psi picked up 5mph...thats crazy
 
yea i did, i will post them later today. Basically all you will see if a higher fuel pressure and boost holding longer

if you can PM or email me these images that would be great. well done chris, awesome. this thread should quiet any naysayers :)
 
Ahhh, I can't wait to install my in-tank pump and see what results I get, hope it is similar.

It is unclear if the stock pump is feeding enough fuel to the cam-pump or not
 
Ahhh, I can't wait to install my in-tank pump and see what results I get, hope it is similar.

It is unclear if the stock pump is feeding enough fuel to the cam-pump or not

Wasted your money and your time with an intank pump and that is NOT going to solve the high pressure fuel starvation on these cars. Wont work, dont bother.

Ge the HP pump from PG, get your car on the dyno and with that GTR- turbo of yours, you should see damn near 400 hp if not more if properly tuned...
 
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if you can PM or email me these images that would be great. well done chris, awesome. this thread should quiet any naysayers :)

i can send you the files and you guys could make it all pretty if you want lol. LIke i said ill post up crude version, basic stuff tonight.
 
13.4 @ 106 was done with i/tbe/ems at 17psi.
12.9 @ 111 was done with i/tbe/ems at 18psi (everythign zeroed out)/fuel pump. The pump and 1 extra psi picked up 5mph...thats crazy
That's quite an impressive jump, but let's be honest.... it's not exactly an apples/apples comparison if you changed something other than just the pump for those times. Definitely looking forward to some datalogging results....
 
i don't think 1 psi - especially if it is untuned/zeroed out as it says - is going to do much, especially not shave a half second off your time in the 13s. it takes an exponential increase to do that once you are in that bracket.

i don't want people to think this is the magic key to reach 400whp either. i'm not a fan of pushing 350+ on stock internals regardless of how well tuned the car is. i do think its going to make a big difference for a lot of people.
 
I would like to see the datalog with fuel pressure, boost, rpm, and TPS so we can see what the throttle was doing around 6400rpm
 
Wasted your money and your time with an intank pump and that is NOT going to solve the high pressure fuel starvation on these cars. Wont work, dont bother.

Ge the HP pump from PG, get your car on the dyno and with that GTR- turbo of yours, you should see damn near 400 hp if not more if properly tuned...

uhh i have it done in my speed.. why dont u give this guy a chance.atleast hes putting an effort in like i did.. and ull never see 400hp without breaking ur motor with these cars internals suck. and a walbro plus the PG pump should mean results should be 50% better then stock. personally id listen to ken i dont trust my motor at all with everyone blowing them up on the 6 side.. now with the right modifications and a good tune i think we'll see some good numbers and a less of a risk of blowing s*** up.
 
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keep in mind. The orginal lower values are of me maxing out the pump. You can see the pressure spikes, can't hold and drops down, car sputters and runs out of fuel, bam fuel cut till its able to supply the pressure. I bet this pump is the reason allt he ms6 guys are blowing up, not weak internals. But i might be wrong
 
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