PG Pump Installed

[Haltech]

Cool. I hate to always compare to the VAG world, but when going BT it was always a must t step up from the 1.8t MAF housing and sensor to the VR6 maf, or even the S4 maf - they're an inch bigger in diameter.

Jonathon, the diameter isnt the big problem when pegging the meter.. Its the values associated with the sensor itself. You can still mod the sensors calibrations without having to actually increase the size of the meter. Problem is, you need to find someone who can do it. SCt does it on Fords, dont know about the import crowd.

 

[mrlilguy157]

Jonathon, the diameter isnt the big problem when pegging the meter.. Its the values associated with the sensor itself. You can still mod the sensors calibrations without having to actually increase the size of the meter. Problem is, you need to find someone who can do it. SCt does it on Fords, dont know about the import crowd.

ive already contacted them and they 'aren't doing it for that application at this time'

i was under the impression that a bigger housing calibrated with a different sensor would allow more peak flow of air at the peak voltage.

ie: 60cc of air would read 4.5v on the stock sensor, but on a bigger housing new sensor calibration it would read at 2.5v, and 100cc at 4.5v

those numbers were made up

 

[driver311]

Ok pay 350-370 for 16 points of fuel adjustment and no timing control.



Yeah I should. I sort of thought it would be a trade secret thing and Figured If Ken had one he could check it for curosity.

$250 fuel control, $60 boost control, $30 mapclamp
So Im $340 into it and the only thing the standback does on top of it is timing. So for $650 more dollars I get timing control and can see the sensors. No afr logging and knock logging. Ill pass. Who says Ill even need timing changed??????

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Hey Ken I spoke to you the other day about the back ordered Cobb intakes and fuel pumps. Just to clarify if I send my pump to you it is only 349 (or 399) to get it upgraded right. I know I asked about the cheapest pump and you said 750 or something. I also think I would like to buy that Cobb intake but could you measure one thing on it for me beforehand? I would like to know the actual size of the maf housing before I spent more money on intakes that are gunna give me lean codes.

if you send me your pump, yes it is 350. i believe the MAF inlet is 2.5 inches inside diameter.

 

[laloosh]

(bump)Timing...you dont need to adjust it unless your running a big turbo, and in that case you want to retard it. Advancing timing on the stock turbo is askign for problems once u start pushing some serious power, retarding it is not needed. Hence timing changes being rather useless on this. Driver has the right idea....i wish i was a lil smarter before i spent my money

 

[Captain KRM P5]

well lets not get exicted. there is no hard proof that the AFC NEO or any SAFC will work with these cars. i believe it will, but before we start preaching the virtues of it lets see some results! i had planned on doing one here but have been too busy to make it happen.

 

[driver311]

Keep us posted Ken, we appreciate your input. If I get around to it first Ill let you guys know my findings.

 

[Haltech]

ive already contacted them and they 'aren't doing it for that application at this time'

i was under the impression that a bigger housing calibrated with a different sensor would allow more peak flow of air at the peak voltage.

ie: 60cc of air would read 4.5v on the stock sensor, but on a bigger housing new sensor calibration it would read at 2.5v, and 100cc at 4.5v

those numbers were made up

No, the meters size doesnt need to be increased to change the calibration. Ford changed the Maf from 80mm to 90mm in 2001. They used the same meter in the cobra. When we began pegging the meter at 600hp, SCT came out with recalibrated 90mm meters that support 825hp before pegging. Solved alot of headaches. You can tune around meter pegging but the solution isnt pretty.

 

[nypest]

you should be if you get a quality boost controller that holds boost steady. BTW im on the stock intercooler, why do poeple think i have all these god damn mods. Power mods are i/tbe with a cat/18psi/fuel pump. Thats it for power, no intercooler, no meth, no exhaust manifold, no tune

Do you have a BCD?

 

[laloosh]

the ems im using has a voltage map clamp

 

[mrlilguy157]

No, the meters size doesnt need to be increased to change the calibration. Ford changed the Maf from 80mm to 90mm in 2001. They used the same meter in the cobra. When we began pegging the meter at 600hp, SCT came out with recalibrated 90mm meters that support 825hp before pegging. Solved alot of headaches. You can tune around meter pegging but the solution isnt pretty.

ahha, thank you for the clarification. (drinks)

 

[nypest]

the ems im using has a voltage map clamp

So the stand back can controle the map (v). Thank you!

 

[Captain KRM P5]

both the Standback and XEDE can clamp the MAP sensor

 

[udontknowjack]

so much for overnite shippin.....gonna be at least another week after i got a bad pump....:'(

 

[javanc]

You better get that ish on before next sat. i wanna see what you put down on the dyno. My ms cai will rull all yall lol.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

so much for overnite shippin.....gonna be at least another week after i got a bad pump....:'(

i sent you an overnight label to have the pump back here fast. we have replacement parts in hand.

 

[udontknowjack]

its outta my control bro....gonna ship it back monday...and the waiting game goes on...=( maybe i just do a dyno with what i have....but i have a feeling my car doesnt like gstmotorsport.....schedule twice with them for dyno/tune...both times come up empty with problems.....

 

[Captain KRM P5]

its outta my control bro....gonna ship it back monday...and the waiting game goes on...=( maybe i just do a dyno with what i have....but i have a feeling my car doesnt like gstmotorsport.....schedule twice with them for dyno/tune...both times come up empty with problems.....

thats cool, i just wanted you to know i was trying to take care of you

 

[udontknowjack]

i know ken...nothing on u and ur company...just my luck with modd on this car....

 

[palerider]

Pump is on.... No problems. After the initial ECU "relearning" of, Im assuming, the MAF maps(or whatever..lol.) It took about 20-30 miles of stop and go, open throttle, and then idling, then normal driving, then repeat....for it to start acting "normal".... only it wasnt normal. In boost it was noticeablely different.... in a good way. And it wasnt just more power.

I finally got the confidence built up and made 6 or 7, 20-120 passes on the farm roads near my house. the thing is a fucken rocket. I notice a bigger difference than with my exhaust or intake.

Of course some of that could also be that I had my coilovers installed today as well....lol

Been a damn good day.

Dynos and hopefully maps of throttle etc will be posted in the next day or two. My tuner has me scheduled Thursday, but encouraged me to come back tomorrow as well. Stay tuned.

Thanks to Ken, Driver 311, and Protege Garage for walking a noob through the process of gladly and successfully pissing my warranty away for good..lol. But it seems like no problems so far. The guys have been immensely helpful.

If I can do it anybody can.