Perfect Power PRS8 Standalone
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Thanks MPnick
. I know it is made by the same people who make the MPI tunner, I have followed the thread pretty closely. just lately with all the frustration in the threads it has been hard to remember who has said what. I realize you know how to tune it nick because it is your product (more or less) and work with it everyday.
being in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. I need something that is going to be Street tunable for the most part as there is very limited access to dyno's, and even less access to good tunners.
so hopefully linux will respond as well as a more "real world" perspective so I can get a different view on it.
thanks
I just wanted feedback from someone else who has actually started the tunning.
. I know it is made by the same people who make the MPI tunner, I have followed the thread pretty closely. just lately with all the frustration in the threads it has been hard to remember who has said what. I realize you know how to tune it nick because it is your product (more or less) and work with it everyday.
being in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. I need something that is going to be Street tunable for the most part as there is very limited access to dyno's, and even less access to good tunners.
so hopefully linux will respond as well as a more "real world" perspective so I can get a different view on it.
thanks
I just wanted feedback from someone else who has actually started the tunning.
Over the next few weeks you will have a few more people tuning with all kinds of systems[not just mine]. My guess is that most of the systems will works well. It will come down the how easy they are to install and tune along with the cost. They people can make up their minds.herbieP5 said:
Thanks again
Later..........Nick
Well, Herbie, I am accually thinking of going with the MPI Tuner now. It will be much easier to set up, and would be enough for what I want to do. This stand alone I knew would be a lot of work to set up, and I was really looking forward to it, but with the new circumstances in my life now, I don't know if I have the time or resources anymore to see this standalone to fuition. The fact that my FP voltage clamp just went out, and I don't want to spend $100 on another one only to not use it again is a waste of good money that is scarce now to me. Going with the piggy back means that I wouldn't have to buy another Wideband sensor (LSM-11), and that I can use my current TechEdge Wideband for tunning. I could just hook up the MPI tunner, and drive away, only to have to tune under boost. No worrying about making maps from scratch, or dealing with cold starts. That was taken care of by Mazda with the stock ECU. I don't know, but I think my mind is made up. I will make my decision tomorrow.
The thing about it is if I go ahead with this standalone, I take on all the pioneering s*** of being the 1st one to set up on on the MP3, and all the headaches of configuring this specifically to my car. I the help and experience of a great tunner on my side, but time has run out due to my voltage clamp faliure. I could contiune, but that would mean more time testing, and configuring something for the first time.
Little Beavis
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Where is your spirit of adventure? I'm tempted to take that beast on. . .just out of being curious, but I don't know that I have a lot of time either.LinuxRacr said:
Well, it's official! I will have the MPI Tunner shipped out to me Monday. After weighing my options, I think I made the wise choice. Part of me still wants to do the stand alone though. 
Maybe in the near future I will take on such a project of being a "shade tree tunner." Thanks for all the support in this endevor! A lot of folks look at engine management as a cut and dry thing with stand alones being the best, and nothing else can compare, but fail to see the big picture. Before I accually understood more about tunning, and what it involves, I would say Stand Alone or nothing thinking that piggybacks were simply inferior. I now know you have to look at it from a point of view of what's best for me. Contrary to popular beliefe, there is really nothing out there as advanced as the OEM ECU's of today. Aftermarket companies just don't have the money and resoureces that car manufactuers have. With that being said, the stand alones are nothing bad at all, and are quite effective in getting more power, but as someone looking to install one, you have to consider a few things:
* Will my car be a daily driven street machine or an all-out race beast? In other words, will my car have the drivability of a stock car, while having the performance I want, or will it have the non-streetable manorisms of a race car. Even if you run a stand alone in parallel mode, some of the control of the stock ECU will be gone leaving me to deal with the task of making maps from scratch. Is my experience up to the task? Do I have time to clime a steep learning curve? Can I handle cold start issues if I use bigger injectors?
*Is the solution cost-effective to what I want to do?
*Do I have a beater just in case of unexpected extended downtime? (I don't!)
*Cost. Can I justify spending in excess of $1K on an EMS that has more functions than I will ever use just to get me the performance a cheaper solution could have gotten me? Am I just buying a Stand Alone because of the appeal of it without knowing the ramifications of my decision? Am I getting a stan alone just because "Brian Spilner" said it was the s***?
A lot of folks don't know that a good piggy back will get them the same, if not better performace for what the want, for a lower price, and a lower cost of time to install and implement. The Xede used by Vishnu is a prime example of how piggybacks are used everyday by big tunners.
All that being said, I still would love to go Stand Alone. I wonder if I can find a way to still be able to do this over the weekend? (scratch)
Maybe in the near future I will take on such a project of being a "shade tree tunner." Thanks for all the support in this endevor! A lot of folks look at engine management as a cut and dry thing with stand alones being the best, and nothing else can compare, but fail to see the big picture. Before I accually understood more about tunning, and what it involves, I would say Stand Alone or nothing thinking that piggybacks were simply inferior. I now know you have to look at it from a point of view of what's best for me. Contrary to popular beliefe, there is really nothing out there as advanced as the OEM ECU's of today. Aftermarket companies just don't have the money and resoureces that car manufactuers have. With that being said, the stand alones are nothing bad at all, and are quite effective in getting more power, but as someone looking to install one, you have to consider a few things:* Will my car be a daily driven street machine or an all-out race beast? In other words, will my car have the drivability of a stock car, while having the performance I want, or will it have the non-streetable manorisms of a race car. Even if you run a stand alone in parallel mode, some of the control of the stock ECU will be gone leaving me to deal with the task of making maps from scratch. Is my experience up to the task? Do I have time to clime a steep learning curve? Can I handle cold start issues if I use bigger injectors?
*Is the solution cost-effective to what I want to do?
*Do I have a beater just in case of unexpected extended downtime? (I don't!)
*Cost. Can I justify spending in excess of $1K on an EMS that has more functions than I will ever use just to get me the performance a cheaper solution could have gotten me? Am I just buying a Stand Alone because of the appeal of it without knowing the ramifications of my decision? Am I getting a stan alone just because "Brian Spilner" said it was the s***?
A lot of folks don't know that a good piggy back will get them the same, if not better performace for what the want, for a lower price, and a lower cost of time to install and implement. The Xede used by Vishnu is a prime example of how piggybacks are used everyday by big tunners.
All that being said, I still would love to go Stand Alone. I wonder if I can find a way to still be able to do this over the weekend? (scratch)
YAyyyyyy!!!! Welcome to the MPI Camp soldier! We are glad to have you aboard..LinuxRacr said:Well, it's official! I will have the MPI Tunner shipped out to me Monday. After weighing my options, I think I made the wise choice. Part of me still wants to do the stand alone though.
* Will my car be a daily driven street machine or an all-out race beast? In other words, will my car have the drivability of a stock car, while having the performance I want, or will it have the non-streetable manorisms of a race car. Even if you run a stand alone in parallel mode, some of the control of the stock ECU will be gone leaving me to deal with the task of making maps from scratch. Is my experience up to the task? Do I have time to clime a steep learning curve? Can I handle cold start issues if I use bigger injectors?
*Is the solution cost-effective to what I want to do?
*Do I have a beater just in case of unexpected extended downtime? (I don't!)
*Cost. Can I justify spending in excess of $1K on an EMS that has more functions than I will ever use just to get me the performance a cheaper solution could have gotten me? Am I just buying a Stand Alone because of the appeal of it without knowing the ramifications of my decision? Am I getting a stan alone just because "Brian Spilner" said it was the s***?
A lot of folks don't know that a good piggy back will get them the same, if not better performace for what the want, for a lower price, and a lower cost of time to install and implement. The Xede used by Vishnu is a prime example of how piggybacks are used everyday by big tunners.
All that being said, I still would love to go Stand Alone. I wonder if I can find a way to still be able to do this over the weekend? (scratch)
Little Beavis
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Let me know if you decide to sell it the PRS8. . .I got first dibs! 
But that is back to the time and money thing. . .hold on to it for awhile, maybe you can start the project up again. . .it isn't like you haven't been at it for awhile already!
But that is back to the time and money thing. . .hold on to it for awhile, maybe you can start the project up again. . .it isn't like you haven't been at it for awhile already!
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Not an option.Little Beavis said:Let me know if you decide to sell it the PRS8. . .I got first dibs!
But that is back to the time and money thing. . .hold on to it for awhile, maybe you can start the project up again. . .it isn't like you haven't been at it for awhile already!
Little Beavis
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Which one is not an option?LinuxRacr said:
As for your Avatar, that rocks. I swear that is my son. . .he was so active (still is)!
