OK so a CBE is pointless so what about the TMIC

[whitey4311]

You cant tell me it doesnt make sense that something which alters the PSI to the turbo and function of the engine over all wont void all that s***.

I am with you and want one to but I realize that the risk of it voiding the warranty is truth and no Monsoon act is going to help you on this one.

I love how some will say that something has to be proven to void a warranty and in this situation it seems so cut and dry that there is nothing to prove to anyone they will void that s*** in a second.

My point is to not stand there and tell me its ok to run it and they cant do anything because we all know that is BS. If you run it take that thing off before its near the dealer and play the stupid game when something fails, or just dont do it. If this were a MS part I would go for it all the way but I really dont want to mess with something this serious.

 

[Hikaru9]

Well said about the TMIC it does look a bit cheap and they normally cost 100-150usd anyway on EBAY,no name that is,If it were a Greddy or AEM TMIC or something 300-350usd would be the most one should pay,its only a peace of cheap metal.

I think the Autoexe TMIC costs like $1,000 >_<

You don't drive with your hood open so who cares what it looks like?

I don't think it looks any worse than any other TMIC on the market for any other car. And it doesn't look any worse than the stock TMIC.

Appearance = Boo!
Performance = Yay!

I still don't like the idea of something cheap looking. If my car were a human being, it'd be like giving her a patched up fruit of the loom instead of some new Victoria's Secret. Okay... that was a bad example. keke~ *^_^*

 

[94jedi]

actually both the ETS and AutoEXE units look pretty good. They're both bar/plate. As long as they hold pressure and there isn't a significant pressure drop across the core, it's a no-brainer.

 

[Kosh]

You cant tell me it doesnt make sense that something which alters the PSI to the turbo and function of the engine over all wont void all that s***.

I am with you and want one to but I realize that the risk of it voiding the warranty is truth and no Monsoon act is going to help you on this one.

I love how some will say that something has to be proven to void a warranty and in this situation it seems so cut and dry that there is nothing to prove to anyone they will void that s*** in a second.

My point is to not stand there and tell me its ok to run it and they cant do anything because we all know that is BS. If you run it take that thing off before its near the dealer and play the stupid game when something fails, or just dont do it. If this were a MS part I would go for it all the way but I really dont want to mess with something this serious.

I don't think it will be enough to hurt anything. The turbo isn't running at break point now and a volume increase of that level won't be enough to damage it. As far as the engine goes our internals are all forged and I don't think having more air molecules is going to hurt it either. If you are scared then leave it stock.

If you do upgrade and something breaks and you switch back to stock for warrenty work then you are a liar and are stealing from the service shop. You mod it you take responsibility for your actions and not try to cheat the industry.

 

[whitey4311]

My point exactly that is why I am saying those who pull this lame ass act out for ammo on the forum have been the same to start unbolting s*** before it goes to the shop.

If the act is so fool proof and solid keep your mods and your Monsoon act and march down there.

For me I am too paranoid that they will in some way find out and I am SOL so I doubt I will do it.

 

[redspeed]

If you do upgrade and something breaks and you switch back to stock for warrenty work then you are a liar and are stealing from the service shop. You mod it you take responsibility for your actions and not try to cheat the industry.

(jerkit) PLEASE!! Like the dealers are the most trustworthy people.

 

[SSMS3]

I have the ETS 3.5". Definite seat of the pants improvement for most of the rpm range

My car was at the dealer today for a ruptured hose and the motor mount recall. I didn't ask, but they never said anything about the IC or rear motor mount.

I agree with whitey though, if my turbocharger blew up tomorrow, Mazda would point the finger at the aftermarket IC and deny a warranty claim and rightly so. For me, it's worth the risk because I feel it's pretty safe but won't go any further down the mod path until I can get it tuned with a wideband

 

[Ryz]

I don't know why a Mazda dealership would be any different than other mfg's in my area. Most don't figure in the mods, as long as it's not something stupid or truely directly related, because they want to make the service money. They make a lot more with warranty and extended warranty work than on the sale of the car. A GM dealer fairly close to me allows high end car buyers that the likes to use a private track a few miles from the dealership. They've got supercharged vettes and caddies running around, they don't care. They make the $$$$$$$$$$$$.

 

[whitey4311]

I have the ETS 3.5". Definite seat of the pants improvement for most of the rpm range

My car was at the dealer today for a ruptured hose and the motor mount recall. I didn't ask, but they never said anything about the IC or rear motor mount.

I agree with whitey though, if my turbocharger blew up tomorrow, Mazda would point the finger at the aftermarket IC and deny a warranty claim and rightly so. For me, it's worth the risk because I feel it's pretty safe but won't go any further down the mod path until I can get it tuned with a wideband

But if they made note of it and you come in later on with a blown turbo guess what, lol.

I really want to do the ETS upgrade but would take it off for dealer trips I suppose.

Did it make a noticable difference?

 

[Kosh]

the ETS TMIC does not trap heat like the factory POS. we've done several back to back 1/4 mile runs and dyno runs and found the ETS cool to the touch. we use the stock one to cook burgers between runs.

Stock really does get hot after each auto-x run. Used a water spray bottle between runs and left the hood open to try to cool it down. Next time I'll bring a bag of ice and a cooler.

I would love to get the ETS 3" but I think it would put me into DSP and I am already well under modded for STU as it is

 

[whitey4311]

Well then again I have been in the feather peddle mod to try and get my MPG avg up and keep my tires alive for longer then 10k miles so a TMIC would just make me mash that peddle more, lol.

Man it has me thinking I want one but I will have to talk to my service advisor guy some more and see whats up. I like going to the dealer for oil changes but it is a much further drive then other places I could go to that wont ding me for mods on the car.

 

[Ryz]

I would also really like to see them explain how something post turbo that does nothing more than smooth and cool airflow can cause a problem. The only reason they don't do it themselves is it would slowly raise the price to where it wasn't as amazing. Do you think they sat the second cat after all computer checks accidently? The guys kicking ideas about this around know what's going on.

 

[Kosh]

Well then again I have been in the feather peddle mod to try and get my MPG avg up and keep my tires alive for longer then 10k miles so a TMIC would just make me mash that peddle more, lol.

Man it has me thinking I want one but I will have to talk to my service advisor guy some more and see whats up. I like going to the dealer for oil changes but it is a much further drive then other places I could go to that wont ding me for mods on the car.

I'm like you, after 3 months of full throttle driving I have started watching my mpg. I get passed on all sides when the light turns green and I enjoy cruise control at 40 mph on 35 mph roads If I need the power I know it is there and I like to keep it a secret.

 

[chaos4]

WHP is wheel horse power
CHP is crank horse power
BHP is base horse power

The numbers differ because power is lost through the drivetrain on the way to the wheels.

BHP is BRAKE HP, not used that commonly in this day and age. It is the same as crank horspower.
Brake / net / crankshaft horsepower (power delivered directly to and measured at the engine's crankshaft)
minus frictional losses in the transmission (bearings, gears, oil drag, windage, etc.),

 

[Kosh]

I would also really like to see them explain how something post turbo that does nothing more than smooth and cool airflow can cause a problem. The only reason they don't do it themselves is it would slowly raise the price to where it wasn't as amazing. Do you think they sat the second cat after all computer checks accidently? The guys kicking ideas about this around know what's going on.

The way you are going to hurt your turbo or your engine is by driving like a prick. Upgrading the intercooler is going to make it more efficent and as long as you don't change your driving habbits you shouldn't be putting your car in any danger.

 

[Kosh]

BHP is BRAKE HP, not used that commonly in this day and age.

Whatever it is called it is still HP measured at the output shaft.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

I would also really like to see them explain how something post turbo that does nothing more than smooth and cool airflow can cause a problem.

a dealer could try to argue that the intercooler made the air so cool and so dense that if causes detonation and lean conditions leading to engine damage.

which, under this circumstance, would be wrong (hippy)

 

[whitey4311]

Well so you are telling me that I should buy it then go local for oil changes and save the 30min drive to the dealer each time. I think I just might have to do this upgrade since I am tired of the drive to them for oil changes and realize that its just some donkey that changes it for them anyway.

So whats the word can the difference of the ETS TMIC be felt?

Basically there is no way that a new TMIC can hurt the car in any way? I realize it cools air and that wont hurt nothing but what if there is a flaw in the TMIC would that cause damage to anything?

 

[Kosh]

He is saying if the dealer tried to use the argument about too much air hurting the engine that the dealer would be a dumb ass for trying to pass off something so inane. All this warrenty talk and make believe engine killer crap is making me sick.

If you have a technical explanation as to which part of the turbo or engine could fail as a direct result of an intercooler installation then please post that but don't just assume an intercooler is bad for your car without any real explination or anything to back up your claim. And more air molecules is going to hurt your engine is a pretty weak argument.

 

[Hikaru9]

BHP is BRAKE HP, not used that commonly in this day and age.

I spend much time reading auto magazines from all over the world, and I'd say its usage is pretty common actually. *^_^*