new product development inquiry

[builthatch]

Are you sure about this? According to my Mazdaspeed Accessory catalog, there are two Mazdaspeed Spring Kits, one for the Mazda3 and another for Mazdaspeed 3; each with different part numbers.

According the Mazdaspeed, the MS3 kit is 30% stiffer than the stock MS3 springs. I've read a few threads confirming this.
I don't have access to my catalog at this time, but as soon as I do, I'll post the different part numbers.

i've never seen an mazdaspeed option upgrade for the ms3, only a mazdaspeed option upgrade for the regular three, '04-'08, which is a part number GRMS-8M-L05. the specs on this part number are about the same as the Eibach pro-kit for the regular 3; the front springs are a hair taller on the mazdaspeed option springs, but the rates are similar, about 160lbs front and 170lbs rear. this is somewhat softer than the stock mazdaspeed3 springs, make no mistake about that! eibach developed this for mazdaspeed to be sold in their accessories catalog and applied only to the standard 3. eibach did not ever develop anything for mazdaspeed for an upgrade to the ms3 and eibach has indicated to me that mazdaspeed had no interest in offering such a thing because they felt the out of the box mazdaspeed3 had the optimum suspension setup.

also, in further response to the info we and breezy discussed, if you go to www.eibach.com, and click on the section on the upper right, it details the info about the Accord testing. the f-150 testing info is completed and at the factory, but i can't get it until their marketing director Oliver comes back to the office as he's been out...

 

[AutoXRacer]

So what is the GRMS-8M-L25 part number for then?

See for yourself...two different spring and coilover sets for the Mazdaspeed3 and the regular Mazda3; page 17 (MS3) and 18 (MZ3).

Its the same for the exhausts and intakes...there are two different parts numbers depending on application.

Am I reading this wrong or what? (huh)

Here is the catalog: http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/pdfs/msacc.pdf

 

[builthatch]

So what is the GRMS-8M-L25 part number for then?

Am I reading this wrong or what? (huh)

nah, you are right. that is indeed what's available!

i can't be sure re: details on the L25 kit..the info about mazda claiming ideal setup out of the box for the ms3 came straight from eibach's mouth to my ears, but evidently that is not accurate.

what i find strange is mazdaspeed would contract eibach to handle the regular 3 option springs, but not the ms3 part number....maybe eibach did develop these too and my contacts were mistaken. whatever is going on, it's even confusing me at this point. i will have to address this with the factory in some way to keep the confusion down.

i'll dig more to find out.

regardless of that, the eibach pro-kit that is potentially enroute specifically for the ms3 would be much cheaper in cost vs. a mazdaspeed option and would match or exceed the quality of anything else in the marketplace. Eibach offers nothing but extremely high quality products, so that has to be kept in mind during this whole process...

i did some digging on the webz and i've come to find out the rates on this part number with the "L25" suffix are as follows-

Evidently they are progressive...

f- 200/217lbs
r- 160/208lbs

with a .6" lowering

so, all this said, it's my hopes that eibach will develop a kit that will offer a lower stance than this kit, for a lower price, but with possibly a bit more aggressive handling if possible.

 

[channah]

ms3 eibach spring kit...

so next monday my car is goin into the eibach warehouse for the fitting and measuring, of the new mazdaspeed 3 kit theyre developing. i get it back weds, so this kit should be coming out soon.

2 thumbs up for free spring for me! haha

 

[builthatch]

so next monday my car is goin into the eibach warehouse for the fitting and measuring, of the new mazdaspeed 3 kit theyre developing. i get it back weds, so this kit should be coming out soon.

2 thumbs up for free spring for me! haha

channah thanks for getting geared up with eibach r&d and helping this happen!

 

[ericrapp]

so next monday my car is goin into the eibach warehouse for the fitting and measuring, of the new mazdaspeed 3 kit theyre developing. i get it back weds, so this kit should be coming out soon.

2 thumbs up for free spring for me! haha

Try and tell me this isn't cool!

 

[ericrapp]

channah thanks for getting geared up with eibach r&d and helping this happen!

if you guys want a product review, send some my way ! Be aware that some of us, especially me, will be adding a bit more tire and antiroll upgrades so be sure to tune these for the perfomance bunch of us . Looking forward!