New member - considering MS3 or MS6

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Hey guys,

Whats up? I just signed up for the forum so I could ask my question to some of the connoisseurs. This may be a little weighted in this forum so I may have to ask over in the MS6 forums as well.

But here goes:

Going to be getting a new car soon. Graduating college with a great engineering job lined up this May, and my poor college kid beater won't be able to handle the daily commute.

Without beating around the bush...should I go with a brand new 2010 mazdaspeed3 for around 25k, or get a lightly used (< 50k miles) mazdaspeed6 for 15-17 thousand? I wasn't too sure if I liked the design of the new ms3, but it seems to be growing on me. I had always like the speed6's, and especially like the AWD aspect, but I'm up in the air.

What do you think would be the wisest decision? What are some pro's and con's about each decision? Thanks
 
Hey guys,

Whats up? I just signed up for the forum so I could ask my question to some of the connoisseurs. This may be a little weighted in this forum so I may have to ask over in the MS6 forums as well.

But here goes:

Going to be getting a new car soon. Graduating college with a great engineering job lined up this May, and my poor college kid beater won't be able to handle the daily commute.

Without beating around the bush...should I go with a brand new 2010 mazdaspeed3 for around 25k, or get a lightly used (< 50k miles) mazdaspeed6 for 15-17 thousand? I wasn't too sure if I liked the design of the new ms3, but it seems to be growing on me. I had always like the speed6's, and especially like the AWD aspect, but I'm up in the air.

What do you think would be the wisest decision? What are some pro's and con's about each decision? Thanks

It has that effect... when i first saw the 2010 MS3 pics i though to me self that the designers over at mazda all caught swin flu. That said, i now own a Pearl White 2010 MS3... and i love almost everything about it.

If you have a nice job lined up then go new, it is much less of a headake. You dont have to worry about tires / and repairs / general maintance for some time. And i find the sence of satisfaction in owning a brand new car is a great feeling.

And on top of that the MS3 is a better car then the MS6 (If you ask me).
Better Gas milage / Power / Trk. And the interior is amazing.
 
MS3=Best all around car+ It is Brand New+They did not have to discount them zillions of dollars because nobody was buying them+They are still making them+They still compete with the competition+It is a great buy=NO competition at the price++++++
 
I was in your position not to long ago, trying to find the right car. For me the deal breaker with the MS3 was the size of the interior, just felt too small and cramped. Not to mention I don't care for the goofy grin that mazda thought would look good on the front. I bought a MS6 with around 40k on it, and haven't had any issues. A co-worker has had some issues with his 2010 MS3, so don't think that just because it's new you won't have *any* problems with it. The MS3 is still a ton of fun to drive, and a number of engineers here have MS3's, so they must be decent.
MS6 are kinda a rarity to see around, awesome sleeper status. If your going to be working somewhere where you think you will be hauling people around (say to lunch) the MS6 is a more comfortable ride for your passengers, but it can still be done in the 3. Ride wise, the MS6 is a little bit quieter and smoother than the MS3 (3's got a nice exhaust note a bit louder and lower).
We joke that the MS6 is the "adult" car and the MS3 is still kind of a boys toy. The MS6 has a tricky clutch to learn, but the MS3 Torque steers like crazy...
Really it comes down to what you are more comfortable behind the wheel in.
 
I have had a chance to drive both car quite often. If you are going to have passengers on a regular basis the MS6 is better. The 2010 MS3 back seat is a little snug for my liking for adults.

-Derrick
 
Depends what you want, the 2010 ms3 is terrible in snow unless you take the extra expense and buy snow tires. The mazdaspeed6 will be good in the snow via the awd. The ms3 is much faster and i mean much. The mazdaspeed6 is more of a cruising car. I have a ms3 and love it. I drive 100 miles round trip everyday and i love its highway characteristics. I wouldnt think of getting an mazdaspeed6. If i wanted awd turbo id get a used sti or evo for around 18k-20k. I wanted something new and thats why i purchased a 2010 speed3.
 
Depends what you want, the 2010 ms3 is terrible in snow unless you take the extra expense and buy snow tires. The mazdaspeed6 will be good in the snow via the awd. The ms3 is much faster and i mean much. The mazdaspeed6 is more of a cruising car. I have a ms3 and love it. I drive 100 miles round trip everyday and i love its highway characteristics. I wouldnt think of getting an mazdaspeed6. If i wanted awd turbo id get a used sti or evo for around 18k-20k. I wanted something new and thats why i purchased a 2010 speed3.

The MS6 is good in the snow...If your not running performance summer tires! It's kind of stupid to pay for a sporty car then put crap tires on it. Summer tires for the summer, snow/winters for the winter. All seasons are great if you just want to compromise, but if you wanted a compromise you probably shouldn't get a sports car to begin with. IMHO.
 
Depends what you want, the 2010 ms3 is terrible in snow unless you take the extra expense and buy snow tires. The mazdaspeed6 will be good in the snow via the awd. The ms3 is much faster and i mean much. The mazdaspeed6 is more of a cruising car. I have a ms3 and love it. I drive 100 miles round trip everyday and i love its highway characteristics. I wouldnt think of getting an mazdaspeed6. If i wanted awd turbo id get a used sti or evo for around 18k-20k. I wanted something new and thats why i purchased a 2010 speed3.

Sorry, after driving half a dozen MS3's, they are not MUCH MUCH faster at all. 0-60 and 1/4 the MS6 is actually faster. From a roll, I never noticed much improvement in the 3. Winter is a no contest at all, AWD kills the MS3 in every bad weather condition, and no crazy torque steer in any condition.

Anyone driving in any kind of snow with summers on either car is a moron trying to kill themselves or worse someone else.
 
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Go New I bought a used EVO 8 MR with 32000 miles it was a COMPLETE LEMON needed new clutch radiator Tires batt intercooler the car was rusting inside the safety frame im going tomorrow to trade in for a MS3 I fixed the Problems but still have issues like it going 0-60 in 8 sec on a MR can u believe that
 
Pretty sure that by now the OP has probably bought the car of his choice, but since I haven't heard back, I'll throw in my $0.02

Coming from a person that has not only driven both, but has OWNED both cars for almost 10K miles, I feel i'm qualified to talk about this.

The Speed6 would be an awesome deal if it had worked as it was designed to. If everything were spec for spec, I think the Speed6 would be a hands down winner. With AWD, sunroof, and GT options that the 2010 Speed3 doesn't offer, it's just got more bang for the buck. Oddly enough, I got almost 28-30MPG in my Speed6 on the hwy, and I've yet to pass 27 in the Speed3. Driving 2 less wheels, this perplexes me.

While the Speed6 could run you mid $30k new, the Speed3 is almost $10K less new. You get what you pay for too...or so would be the case if everything were working the way it were supposed to. If you've researched the Speed6 at all, you should have come across a few VERY detremental issues, one being a clutch that God himself still struggles with, and the infamous studder where the engine feels like it's missing in mid-range RPM's. The studder almost got me killed when passing on a highway, and that event ended my love affair with it. Most (but not all) 2006 Speed6 owners have reported the studder, while every 2006 Speed6 owner that hasn't had (or couldn't get) the clutch TSB done experiences it's joys. I'm not sure if they fixed the clutch for 2007, but I hear that the studder isn't near as common in 2007. All of this is speaking from a stock engine too, without any mods. I don't know if they straightened it out yet, but the Speed6 engine didn't seem too accepting of mods, even such simple mods as a Mazdaspeed CAI.

The 2010 Speed3 does everything it claims to without any BS. Everything works, no studder, much more acceptable clutch. However, do realize there isn't even (currently) a GT option, so no leather/heated seats, no sunroof option (still can't fathom this), no stock HIDs, no AWD (obviously). The navigation is bundled with the "tech package", and the screen can be tough to read because of it's size, especially in "night" mode when the lighting reverses. Even though some have called it tacky, I for one, loved the Speed6's pop-up 7" screen navigation setup. Was it worth the $2000 option brand new? Probably not. But then again, you'd be buying used anyway. One odd mention is that the Speed6 doesn't have a boost gauge while the Speed3 (2010 gen) does. However, the 3 had to sacrifice the temperature gauge to do so, which brings to question if it was an intelligent trade-off or not.

As long as your tires hook, I think the Speed3 feels slightly quicker, although it's not by much. That is, of course, assuming you can hook the tires without spinning and fighting the wheel from TQ steer. It's very acceptable and even predictable once you get used to the car, but it is still there. Coming from the Speed6 to the Speed3, it was VERY noticable at first since I never had to deal with it in the Speed6. It should come to no suprise the the Speed3 is slightly quicker, as it sports the same engine as the Speed6, but weighs almsot 350lbs less (3250lbs vs 3595lbs).

The Speed3 definately has a firmer ride that meant to feel sportier and tighter around the track. In contrast, the Speed6 feels more like a touring car then a racer. I loved the comfortable ride of the Speed6, but the Speed3 is still very acceptable. A big thumbs up goes to the Speed6's seats, as I find the Speed3's seats to be ok for short hauls but will get a lil uncomfortable if you spend hours and hours in the car every day. I'll agree with others that the rear seats in the Speed6 are much more comfortable and spacious for passengers then the Speed3, although the 3's seats still aren't near as bad as almost any 2 door car's rear seats.

Needless to say, the Speed3 is MUCH better for hauling anything besides people. With the rear seats dropped down and a huge hatch to use, you can fit some monstrous things in the back. The Speed6 has reinforced stabilizer bars in the back and the rear seats CAN be dropped but you have to reach around throught the trunk to do it. The bars can be removed and i've heard of a number of people that have did so without any problems. Even if you remove the bars, your space will still be limited in comparison to a hatchback.

Overall, I'm happy with the Speed3. It doesn't have any of the odd hit-or-miss major faults of the Speed6, although some squeeks and creaks are starting to get worse. As I said, if both vehicles did exactly as they are designed without an issue, i'd probably take a Speed6 over a Speed3. However, after reality sets in and so many of the Speed6's unsettling blemishes start to show, the Speed3 just feels like an all-around better car IMO. Whatever you decide, let us know! Good luck with the search.
 
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