New 2017 CX-5 Revealed

[Kaps]

After reading a bit more on 17 CX5 - I am downgrading it severely - I think it will struggle to hit 100K Sales.
There are few reasons for me to be negative:
Downgraded EPA estimates - 31? now compare that with 34 or 35 that rogue or CRV has and it looks bad.
Early market goes to 2017 CRV in terms of sales - Sales bring in more curiosity and more sales as friends and family ask for - Mazda needs to time new release with tax returns as well.
both Rogue and CRV having 45% or more sales jump - big factor imo.

This may not be a bad thing - skyactive two if it does bring in a 36-37 mph highway and a 32 mpg city CUV that will do very well with improvement in certain areas as fit n finish.

 

[RDK006]

I'm happy I got my 2016.5 - it has a CD player!!

 

[shaendra]

After reading a bit more on 17 CX5 - I am downgrading it severely - I think it will struggle to hit 100K Sales.
There are few reasons for me to be negative:
Downgraded EPA estimates - 31? now compare that with 34 or 35 that rogue or CRV has and it looks bad.
Early market goes to 2017 CRV in terms of sales - Sales bring in more curiosity and more sales as friends and family ask for - Mazda needs to time new release with tax returns as well.
both Rogue and CRV having 45% or more sales jump - big factor imo.

This may not be a bad thing - skyactive two if it does bring in a 36-37 mph highway and a 32 mpg city CUV that will do very well with improvement in certain areas as fit n finish.

Could very well be true. However, it's a great looking vehicle (on paper, at the very least) for those like me looking to replace a 10-year-old compact SUV with a new ride, in the very near future. I don't much care what sales look like, or what type engine is coming in the round AFTER this one. What's here in the next 3 - 4 months is my concern, at least.

 

[clads01]

Downgraded EPA estimates - 31? now compare that with 34 or 35 that rogue or CRV has and it looks bad.

The EPA changed the way fuel economy calcs are done, effective 2017 model year vehicles, so that may have something to do with the "downgrade." From the EPA website:

"Most vehicles are not affected by the new calculations. Some fuel economy estimates will decrease by 1 mpg, and a small number may be 2 mpg lower."

 

[jhu8]

It's a CUV not a MazdaSpeed3 [emoji23][emoji23]

You all crack me up.

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What's your point? There are people out there that want a manual while still benefiting from having the extra space and styling of a CUV. Just because it's not important to you, and you decide to have blinders on., doesn't mean there aren't buyers.

Btw, I wouldn't ever want a manual in a CUV but I can totally understand why people would want such a thing.

 

[RG_Flyer]

It's a CUV not a MazdaSpeed3 [emoji23][emoji23]

You all crack me up.

Yep, the whole driving dynamics thing is over-hyped too, for a grocery getter.

 

[Kaps]

The EPA changed the way fuel economy calcs are done, effective 2017 model year vehicles, so that may have something to do with the "downgrade." From the EPA website:

"Most vehicles are not affected by the new calculations. Some fuel economy estimates will decrease by 1 mpg, and a small number may be 2 mpg lower."

CX5 will be more efficient in the 0-60 mph range with sweet spot at 40 - 45, infact i think if your drive is consistently 50 mph or so with little stops or lights you might be able to pull 33 mpg but yes its not getting EPA numbers at 75 mph.
EPA does not test all vehicles, manufacturers do in some cases, I am thinking that CRV getting 33 or 34 hwy was accelerated very gently to that speed and very gently from alll stops - same as how Mazda may have avoided going above 65 mph during their EPA tests lol.

But most buyers read sticker numbers or rated numbers and make a decision. so there in a huge selling point goes to competitors.

 

[mangoconchile]

Yep, the whole driving dynamics thing is over-hyped too, for a grocery getter.

No kidding, with the way some people are talking about their CX-5's in this thread you'd think they're professional race car drivers.

 

[boandlkramer]

No kidding, with the way some people are talking about their CX-5's in this thread you'd think they're professional race car drivers.

My wife loves her CX-5. I enjoy it for weekend trips and I think it has great mileage, however my perspective on fuel efficiency is skewed given my daily driver. [emoji23]


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[yrwei52]

It's a CUV not a MazdaSpeed3 [emoji23][emoji23]
You all crack me up.

Yep, the whole driving dynamics thing is over-hyped too, for a grocery getter.

No kidding, with the way some people are talking about their CX-5's in this thread you'd think they're professional race car drivers.

Be careful. Negative posts are not allowed here or ⋯ (flame2)

 

[jhu8]

No kidding, with the way some people are talking about their CX-5's in this thread you'd think they're professional race car drivers.

What if they are and their CX5 is just their daily.

 

[7eregrine]

Raise your hand if MPG was really a deciding factor in your CX5 purchase?

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[ALafya]

This is disappointing.
For me, the pre 2017 exterior looks a bit better, new one still does not offer Android Auto, heavier and now lowered MPG. Perhaps they got rid of the higher final ratio on the FWD?
The interior is a bit better, but not enough for me to think it is an upgrade.
G-Vectoring is not important enough feature, and understood by few to justify.

I am going to replace mine in 3~4 years, so there is still hope.

 

[Kaps]

What if they are and their CX5 is just their daily.

Thats not valid, if you are an enthusiast you buy :
A miata type good handling car as your daily driver
AND
A Rav4 / CRV for hauling groceries / kids.

If you dont do this - you are being cheapskate or are not enthusiast enough.
You should drive home in your daily and hop into your CRV, listen to the nice CVT or Radio and go pick kids / Groceries.

Such simple things we have to explain daily here?

 

[jhu8]

Thats not valid, if you are an enthusiast you buy :
A miata type good handling car as your daily driver
AND
A Rav4 / CRV for hauling groceries / kids.

If you dont do this - you are being cheapskate or are not enthusiast enough.
You should drive home in your daily and hop into your CRV, listen to the nice CVT or Radio and go pick kids / Groceries.

Such simple things we have to explain daily here?

What about those who can't afford two cars? Ever think of that lol such a simple thing has to be explained?

 

[dougal]

It's a CUV not a MazdaSpeed3 [emoji23][emoji23]

You all crack me up.

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Some people like manuals. What is wrong with that?

 

[fdew]

Thats not valid, if you are an enthusiast you buy :
A miata type good handling car as your daily driver
AND
A Rav4 / CRV for hauling groceries / kids.

If you dont do this - you are being cheapskate or are not enthusiast enough.
You should drive home in your daily and hop into your CRV, listen to the nice CVT or Radio and go pick kids / Groceries.

Such simple things we have to explain daily here?

As a enthusiast I never want to drive a poor handeling vehicle, and I don't want my wife to either. A good handeling vehicle is more fun, and safer. (Twice I have had the car behind me run into the car in front of me while I drove out of the way.)

I want a good handeling grocery getter. And I have one.

Some things we have to explain daily here!

 

[Dr Kev]

Actually, it seems like positive posts about the CX-5 are discouraged.

Be careful. Negative posts are not allowed here or ⋯ (flame2)

 

[Kaps]

What about those who can't afford two cars? Ever think of that lol such a simple thing has to be explained?

Jhu8 you are not understanding man.
Every CRV, Rav4 and Rogue - wakes up with few dreams every morning. They dream of protecting the little kids from harsh bumps, ensure that bottle of milk does not topple and the eggs stay intact. And the CX5 wakes up thinking of what? Talimena scenic hwy, blue ridge pkwy, carving the top road of Estes park Colorado?
These folks made the CUV segment over 2 decades and you just want to walk in and destroy their hard work by saying that CX5 belongs in this segment? For all these years these people who buy with mpg, safety, resale and cargo capacity as their prime factors now have to stand the smugness of few CX5 owners who say what about handling?


The guy who bougth CRV says Handling doesnt matter since this is a boring segment, this is called PPJ (Post purchase justification). Heck you can even have a PPJ for a pink PT Cruiser - its so ugly no one will tail gate you ever in the city. Even you had a PPJ about CX5 - those 5 cu.ft of less cargo would never matter.

The question is not about who is right and who's PPJs are more valid - the point is these people have spent so much time and effort in defining this segment and folks who just walk in and say handling this and handling that - common are you not even remorseful of hurting them?
How often do you haul groceries, kids in your CUV? and how often do you drive it? compare the two - driving doesnt matter in this segment. That is why Honda says power of dreams - people dream of educating their kids, packing few extra rolls of bounty towel on a holiday trip. Honda gets it right. Its their segment, and they want it boring - if your neighbor wants to name his son Silverfart, who are you or me to question that?

And last thing - heated rear seats kind of compete with autolift gate as most useful feature of this segment - I have my kids car seat in the rear and that plastic base does not give diddly squat about being toasty.

 

[Kaps]

Just adding this gem of a review from Edmunds, read with caution, it might make you wiser:

"Do not buy this car if you want a comfortable,quite ride with music. Do not buy this car if you take your dogs with you. It collects hair and dirt. The dashboard is made of a black rubber tire. How do you clean that? Do not buy this car if you haul grain or horse supplies. It takes hours to clean. I think the body is made out of Pepsi cans. Every bump in the road you will feel. The road noise is deafening especially when you ride in the backseat . Forget trying to listen to the radio while driving over 40mph. I live in the mountains, so I can't get a radio station anyway. I thought it had Sirius , but of course not. It can't even be installed. I bought this piece of junk for 33,000 dollars. I traded in my beautiful Hummer and would do anything to get it back!!!"

Although Chris de Armond doesnt say what happens when you haul pigs in the CX-5, i am assuming its not suitable for it. The gem is Chris lamenting about the fact that he cannot hear the radio - then remembers he doest get a radio station anyway lol.