Hmm, this represents the full line not specific models, but interesting no doubt!
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm
MSP vs SRT-4
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I-Am-Chris
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REMillers said:
Yeah but Supras BLOW!!! hehe. But Serious why would you even ask that question? Ok lets break it down! Spend your time at the dragstrip - get the neon. Have fun with the handling beast (for stock dont get me wrong) get the MSP. The Neon is a Very badass car except for the open diff. Why not tag on a grand and put in a diff? who the hell knows. I really wish people would get off the Neon bashing! I dont like the looks but if it was out when i got my car I might, keyword, might have gotten one. I'm about performance! all the money I'm spending on the engine of the msp could have gone to the suspension for the neon, or Vice versa. Dont hate it just cause its faster (Shhh: I'm trying to piss people off!
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The srt-4 definately hauls ass...
I saw a brand new srt-4 parked next to a very nicely modded silver WRX the other day..wish i had my camera.
Looked like Rosie O'Donnell sittin next to Heidi Klum
But beauty is in the eye of the beholder i guess...
I saw a brand new srt-4 parked next to a very nicely modded silver WRX the other day..wish i had my camera.
Looked like Rosie O'Donnell sittin next to Heidi Klum
But beauty is in the eye of the beholder i guess...
I-Am-Chris said:
Yeah but Supras BLOW!!! hehe. But Serious why would you even ask that question? Ok lets break it down! Spend your time at the dragstrip - get the neon. Have fun with the handling beast (for stock dont get me wrong) get the MSP. The Neon is a Very badass car except for the open diff. Why not tag on a grand and put in a diff? who the hell knows. I really wish people would get off the Neon bashing! I dont like the looks but if it was out when i got my car I might, keyword, might have gotten one. I'm about performance! all the money I'm spending on the engine of the msp could have gone to the suspension for the neon, or Vice versa. Dont hate it just cause its faster (Shhh: I'm trying to piss people off!
yeah all the money into the suspension ...........blah........blah
but its still a NEON
I-Am-Chris
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perfworks said:
yeah all the money into the suspension ...........blah........blah
but its still a NEON
I know hence thats why i have an msp
I-Am-Chris
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REMillers said:
ROFLOL
*falls off board*
haha thought u would like that. We have along going joke about mkIV being a cop out for people (our friends) who got tired of getting beat! LOL!InsidiousMSP
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Another thing to think about... if you're going to buy either one, think of how much more the Neon will depreciate.
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ok to shed some light on this subject. I Traded in my Mazdaspeed on and SRT. I liked my mazdaspeed as far as looks go. BUT, after driving it for a couple of months. the car really seemed slower than i anticipated. the boost lag really got on my nerves. i know it might not be important for some people. but in my eyes, if i was gonna shell out 20$ grand for a "turbo" car, it better be really fast. Looks wise the car is great, plus the stereo. handling is great. the other MAIN reason for the trade was the fact that there was NO AFTERMARKET SUPPORT for the car. i didnt wanna have to spend 1, 000$ to make the engine stronger when i could get the dodge that was already above that stage. every1 keeps complaining that an AFTERMARKET BLOWOFF VALVE WILL STALL on the mazda, i just ordered the MOPAR blowoff valve kit, for 60$ for my srt w/ no stall issues at all. basically it boils down to wanting a car that was meant for for looks and handling, w/ the mazda. or do u want a car made for speed, that is meant to be built up to suit the buyer. for 400$ the srt has the STAGE 1 kit, 40hp dyno tested. most people on this formum myself included spent 260$ on an injen for the mazdaspeed for 12-14 hp, go figure..
he had hesitation...not lag. Some people never picked up on that I guess...and some weren't willing to wait a little for the fix. I might add that the mopar stage one kit was dyno'd quite lower than 40hp to the wheels, from what I've heard. The INJEN dyno at at least 10whp but closer to 12-15whp. It can now be had at ~200$. Anyway, for a more limited production run vehicle what did you expect? I'd rather look sexy and kill on the autocross course than look like an icky solid colored skittle (except for the silver which looks alright, but still not my taste) and blow people away on the straights. But that's just me...nothing wrong with the dodge engine (except that I don't like dodge) I just don't enjoy the vehicle that they placed it in.
2.4 liters+small turbo=little lag. that turbo is smaller than the evo turbo. isn't it a td04 16g? why would they ever put a td04 housing on a 16g? and integrate the exhaust manifold into the turbine housing? sounds like a good, cheap upgrade path was thought of before hand. after driving my 16g'd laser i notice no lag in my msp. as for the bov stalling, it has to do with where the air is metered, so how can one be better than the other, just because it can be vented and make cool ricer sounds. you don't need to upgrade your bov to vent it, you just won't get the cool sounds. what engines do the neon's even have? is it a 4g64, or one of dodge's wonderful creations? exactly what aftermarket support do you want? exhaust? custom is cheapest anyways, but they exist otherwise. intercooler? kits are being developed. turbo? way easier to upgrade than the neon since it is a garrett already and not a mitsu piece. internals? the fs-de has been around since early 90's, they're available. i don't see what else you would want from an aftermarket? you have pretty much the same options as every other turbo car out there, the only bad part being a lack of forged internals (does the neon have forged?), but that isn't terrible to fix if you're a competent mechanic and don't have to pay someone to do everything. neon owners are fast now, but most of them don't realize they're at (or quickly approaching) the limits of their turbo, and upgrading won't be cheap or easy, especially since the turbo is at the back of the engine (good planning, eh?)QwikSRT4 said:
just so everyone knows, i do really like the neon and i was between the two, but there are some definite disadvantages that it came with and there is more to driving than going in a straight line, and the msp is a more solid all around car IMHO, if only we could get some more tunability from the ecu
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