MSP Transmission swap?

[mspHtown]

Yea so...I broke a tooth off my PAR straight cut crown gear. I'm still on the stock turbo, 15psi, and NEVER launch my car. PAR should not be considered "bullet proof". Just a heads up to people.

is par going to replace it for you?

 

[Crazee D]

I've been reading up on the focus forums recently about swaps

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149236

http://forums.focaljet.com/steeda-a...ec-full-swap-kit-we-want-your-opinions-4.html

I was feeling out any AWD attempts they have tried, lots of info

 

[kz9]

I think proteges have a GSM-15. In fact I know that it is a G seris tranny. The SVT tranny WILL NOT bolt directly to the FS. Totally different tranny.

 

[93mx6]

i remember somewhere had a quaiffe 6 speed transmission for the 93-97 mx6/probe, i cant remember at the moment but it was like $16000, so thats what i can offer(stoned)

 

[bryanakahamm]

16k though?

screw that

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

I dont drive a msp, i drive an mx-6 with the 2.0l 4cyl (but theres no forum for them on this site). but anyways, i was on google trying to figure out what car had a matching tranny that i could swap mine for. the mx-6 tops out at 112, so im running just under 3k rpm's at 60 mph on the highway. (not to mention that i usually go 80 mph, which is over 4k rpm's...) ohh, and that my first gear is really short. it only gets me to 20 mph...

so i found this list in the forum and i was wondering if anyone wanted to help me out here. i just need to know if any of there trannys will be an easy bolt on and give me what im looking for.

thanks


ps- call me a noob or whatever, but whats the "LSD" stand for?

Limited Slip Differential (LSD)

 

[93mx6]

for an MX6 and ford probe forum go to www.mx6.com

it has everything you need my name on there is 93blkbeauty i used to have a mx-6 so i can help you with stuff. the 2.0 tops out at 118, with the 2.0 theres a way to bypass the governor, its on the forums over there, and first going only to 20??? never experienced that with mine. how many miles do you have

 

[jersey_emt]

ps- call me a noob or whatever, but whats the "LSD" stand for?

Limited Slip Differential (LSD)

Or Lysergic acid diethylmide, if you're into that sort of thing.

Anyways, a lot of talk has gone on over the years about swapping out the transmission in the MSP, but I don't recall anyone actually doing it. I'd definitely be happy if I was mistaken.

 

[HondaEat-R]

is par going to replace it for you?

Nope, only a 1 year warranty on their parts. Cost me $1,200 for a new crown gear, and my car's been down for weeks. Good stuff.

 

[Crazee D]

So anyone check out the links to focus forums?

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

Or Lysergic acid diethylmide, if you're into that sort of thing.

Anyways, a lot of talk has gone on over the years about swapping out the transmission in the MSP, but I don't recall anyone actually doing it. I'd definitely be happy if I was mistaken.

Well i have a friend in Australia that did a Tranny Swap for his protege, his actually using a Toyota MR2 Transmission, let me see if i can get him to post in here...

 

[StealthWyvern]

Well i have a friend in Australia that did a Tranny Swap for his protege, his actually using a Toyota MR2 Transmission, let me see if i can get him to post in here...

really you have a friend?(cool) beans kiddo! lol jk. That would be some pretty sweet info if you can get him to post it up.

 

[JPR-MSP]

If the info that TITANIUM posted is somehow correct...I can say that BP trannies from the 97 kia sephia are very good...I will try to do some field research (since I have one tranny in my dad's shop all torn apart from my previews builts,I pulled 300 whp with a BP engine.Tranny never failed,the only part that needed work was the differential pin,even an unexperienced welder(like me) could do it...hehehehe I DID!!!)

I will try to get a regular protege tranny(FS ENGINE) and rip it apart to see if the internals could fit...
I will call a local which has lots of expirience with mazdas and I will let you guys and gals know...

note:
I thread that started as some people may call it "stupid" has been a good head start for people to research and maybe coming up with ideas for adding more strength to our trannies...

Not all questions that seems dumb are...

REMEMBER GUYS AND GALS NOT EVERY PERSON HAVE THE TIME TO READ CAR THINGS ALL DAY...SOME OF US HAVE A NORMAL LIFE (which I will drop for a 100% car life, but is somehow impossible for me)...he he he!

regards!

 

[Crazee D]

Borienqenos FTW!

 

[spicyprotevo]

Is the FS not the same engine, obviously some differences, as the Zetec 2.0? If so, then why does kz9 say that the transmission wont bolt up? If they can throw the SVT trans on the Zetec, and we just so happen to have the same bellhousing bolt design as the Zetec, then we damn well better be able to bolt that tranny to a MSP. Just my thought, but i'm pretty sure that ANY g-series transmission will bolt up to ANY car that has a g-series transmission, thus, even though the SVT trans isn't a G-series, the ZX3 is, and that would mean YES to a 6-speed. Obviously gear ratios are something to watch, and I'm going to go test drive an SVT Focus soon to see how I like the gearing, but once again, THIS WILL BE MY CAR SOMEDAY.

 

[tweetyspeed]

doing a motor build and best friend of mine owns a junk yard and was a tranny man for 15 to 20 years!!! going to do some tranny expeiraments... any ideas for the first try? found out the 3rd gen probe has a 3.80 finale drive that ca be put on our lsd!!!!!

 

[Ricktalife]

spec-v's have 6 spd transmisson... but i dunno if you would want that...

i have a spec at the moment and i love the 6 spd
btw it's for sale to anyone in the central pa area for 12k (59000 miles)

 

[slomsprotege]

there is talk of people going for the svt tranny.... i couldnt get it to work, my buddy took his motor out of his svt (rebuild, nitrous fry) and we decided to try this (if it worked i would buy him a new one), the bolts are all exact but i could not get one of them to line up. and i remember reading somewhere on here about someone mentioning something about a kia tranny or changing gearsets... i dont know ill look into it or try to find a differential, im tired of hitting 145 and thats it.... and plus at 300whp 1st gear is absolutely useless.

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

if you guys want to know what exactly you need to do, and what to use, you need to talk to the Puerto Rican Guys in Puerto Rico, they have and build the sickest, fastest ******* Proteges World Wide, they use different parts from different cars on the proteges, they all Have 9, 10, Seconds Proteges and Mazda's daily driving.... www.carrito.net

 

[spicyprotevo]

slomsprotege, you tried putting the SVT tranny on what? You had a space fs block sitting around? And what exactly do you mean the bolts are exactly the same but you couldn't get one of them to line up? So you're saying they have the same bolt pattern? I'm going to try to see if I can get a test drive around town and get some data, like what 3000 rpm looks like in each gear. Sorry if there are too many questions but it looks like if you couldn't get only 1 of the bolts to line up, that something custom could be fabricated to make this work out.