MS3 vs. WRX
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What is "LADA"
Forgive my ingnorance. What does "LADA" mean?
Rainman said:
Forgive my ingnorance. What does "LADA" mean?
A Russian Fiat, literally. The Italians built the factories for the Soviets awhile back and they're still being used. I drove a Lada Niva (kinda like a early Ford Bronco) while I lived in Moscow. It's a very basic car that is sometimes sold in Canada and other places.Antonio DiMarco said:
I think it's a tough choice. I get tired of cars fast. Looking to get a different car and just had the MP3 turboed for like 4 months. Had car less than a year and have definately looked into the MS3. I just don't know, gotta waite and see how the car holds up after a year and people buy them. On a side note, I would also go with an SI any day before I go with a first year producion car.
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CHICO2003 said:
Haha yea youve heard our adds. The best is when they play them on the spanish radio stations. Glad you enjoy them
Donas64 said:
I wouldn't say that just yet. The MS3 is alot heavier, so power to wieght comes into play. The Si is no lightweight either, however. I know the MS3 makes alot more power, but for my choice I would take the SI easily. FWD and turbo torque suck, I hated it in my msp, and the ms3 makes alot more torque than that did.
Mazda, please put this engine in the NC MX-5 and create a solstice gxp/sky redline killer. Now that would be something more along my liking.
Renesis8 said:
Look at the F20C S2000 engine. Similiar engine to the K20 and stock redline of 9000 rpm. I read about a test performed on a S2000 engine. It was held at redline for hours on end. It lasted 23 hours before breaking a rocker arm. Honda makes some of the best engines around period.
rotaryrider36 said:Haha yea youve heard our adds. The best is when they play them on the spanish radio stations. Glad you enjoy them
All I know is... this "Mr Sansone" must have a hell of an ego! I can just imagine him sitting down with the creators of the ad and going "look, say whatever the **** you want... I don't care, just make sure you tell everyone I'm the MAN!!"
the thing I find most amusing is how they say "You're the man" instead of the more customary "you da man"
but hey... whatever gets their attention I guess.
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Really? I had understood that the MSP had one of the better power band feels, along the lines of a small v6. supposively fairly smooth.Gaboost said:
Gaboost said:
Supposedly, the TS on the MS3 will be relatively non-existent. I'm a skeptic as well so I'll have to drive one to believe it. That said, all the so-called experts said the TS on the MSP was unbearable.... my guess is they're just a bunch of pu$$ies who can barely bench their own body weight. I didnt find the TS on the MSP to be a problem at all... and I've driven her plenty hard.
As far as your argument to get the SI instead goes.... While I admire Honda's reliability and find it to be superior to pretty much every other car on the planet, I feel the car (in stock form at least) is rather bland looking. The interior is a love it or hate it thing too... after driving one, I'm on the hate it side. way too funky for my taste. the seats are also far too supportive/tight for me. On top of that, while it may be possible to crank that sucker's hp up to the mid 200's fairly easily and cheaply... it'll undoubtedly still require you to rev the ever lovin s*** out of the engine in order to take advantage of this. While some people may like this, I find this to be absolute BS. Think about it like this... when the WRX came out the most common complaint was that it drove/accelerated like a basic impreza... until you got to around 4k rpms... then it turned into a monster. Well, with that logic, these low tq, rev happy engines honda produces shouldn't be as well received as they are. Afterall, the complaint is basically the same... except, instead of 4k rpms... it's more like 6-8k! staying in the 'sweet spot' of the rpm range has to be a b****!!
I'll take a car like the GTI or MS3 over that crap any day... power is accessible pretty much whenever. but hey... honda's are still great cars! My Element kicks ass.
You can get a 06 WRX leftover for the same price as a MS3 sport. I was looking into a WRX wagon a few weeks ago. I was thinking really hard about getting the wrx until I called for an insurance quote. I was pretty floored when the told me it would be nearly DOUBLE what I pay for the miata for the same coverage. That pretty much put the brakes on that. I am gonna wait til spring and see what shakes out with the MS3. I wasn't too keen on frameless windows and the horrible 5-speed anyhow.
I love these posts. All about "this car will beat that". e-arguments crack me up. In the end what does it boil down to here? Simple. We all have our own opinions and should respect others. Not tear someone to pieces just because they like something else. Personally it is my belief that all cars have positive and negative aspects about them. You really believe someone could make the "perfect" car? Heck, in my lifetime I've owned a Mazda, Acura, Honda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Ford, Hyundai, and a Chrysler.
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altspace said:
Its all in good fun and it's aprt of the reason why we come to these forums. to toss arguments and opinions back and forth and just shoot the breeze with other car enthusiasts. I don't sense any animosity or hostility in this thread at all. We're all good people here.
