MS3 vs. 2008 Dodge Caliber SRT-4

Donas64 said:
You know, tilted at an angle and lowered, its not terrible looking (peep)

Donas, do you like work for Dodge or something? You are advertising the crap out of this vehicle, lol.
 
sanblaster1 said:
Donas, do you like work for Dodge or something? You are advertising the crap out of this vehicle, lol.

Nothing wrong with Americans supporting domestic products. The last three cars I bought for personal use were imports, but that's not important. *^_^*
 
Hikaru9 said:
Nothing wrong with Americans supporting domestic products. The last three cars I bought for personal use were imports, but that's not important. *^_^*

Don't mind supporting domestic if it isn't s*** but this car is up there with PT Cruiser and HHR for ugliest kid on the playground.
 
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Chief7925 said:
Cheap speed is fun. That neon Srt-4 will still beat a mazdaspeed 3 stock on stock though, no matter what it looks like. In my honest opinion though i like the way they Srt-4 neon looks. As for the calibur Srt-4, i'm neutral towards it. I'd buy it if i drove it and liked it enough. Just wait till it comes out and try it out. Then see what your impressions are of it.

Funny.. I beat a SRT-4 with Exhaust with my car, brand new, straight from the dealer with 14 miles on the odometer. Show me a SRT-4 stock for stock, beating a MS3...

I also had a AMG SL500 by 2 fenders and a full car length on a 06 M3. Musta been luck (loser)
 
Donas64 said:
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You know, tilted at an angle and lowered, its not terrible looking (peep)

Now, Looking at that pic, it don't look that bad from the front, but the rear is terrible. I'm not even gona comment on the interior. (blarf) (notcool)
 
sanblaster1 said:
Donas, do you like work for Dodge or something? You are advertising the crap out of this vehicle, lol.

They Promised me a nice discount on one if I shilled for them. I can get one for 10K off MSRP if I can convince people to buy one. Plus free oil changes for life.

I also work for Nintendo. They promised me a free Wii and unlimimted games if I push RE4.

All this plus being a member of TEAM SPEED LIMIT is really draining.
 
Kosh said:
Don't mind supporting domestic if it isn't s*** but this car is up there with PT Cruiser and HHR for ugliest kid on the playground.

Everyone knows that engine is from Mistu, not dodge. Dodge cant make a 4 cyl to save their life. They might as well put a powered by Mistu emblem on it.
 
Haltech said:
Everyone knows that engine is from Mistu, not dodge. Dodge cant make a 4 cyl to save their life. They might as well put a powered by Mistu emblem on it.

Our engine is from Ford so what is your point?
 
Haltech said:
Funny.. I beat a SRT-4 with Exhaust with my car, brand new, straight from the dealer with 14 miles on the odometer. Show me a SRT-4 stock for stock, beating a MS3...

I also had a AMG SL500 by 2 fenders and a full car length on a 06 M3. Musta been luck (loser)

SRT-4 vs MS3 = Drivers Race

MS3 vs AMG SL500 = MS3 gets ***** unless the AMG driver sucks horribly or didn't know you were racing. From a dig the MS3 might squirt ahead momentarily due to the AMG melting its rear meats, but it would rockey by shortly after. Not even close.

MS3 vs 06 M3 = M3 wins but it could be close. Good driver M3 should win every time.
 
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Donas64 said:
Mazda and Ford do share engines but the MS3's 2.3 DISI is exclusive to mazda and not used in any ford products.

Ford markets it as Duratec in Ford cars. We get longer intake mani, S-VT continuous valve timing and nicer headers compared to the fords though. But the 2.3L MZR is still a Duratec no matter what you call it.
 
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Kosh said:
Our engine is from Ford so what is your point?

Follow the history of the Ford 2.3 and the word.. " Cosworth "... Im proud of my Ford engine.. This engine we have in this car was scheduled to go into the 06 SVT Focus...

And i have a powered by Ford decal already on the car.

so tell me what your point is again by calling the Neon SRT-4 a Domestic? Ill tell you right now, ive never seen any SRT-4 line up at the track when the Domestics are called... They line up with the Imports...
 
Donas64 said:
SRT-4 vs MS3 = Drivers Race

MS3 vs AMG SL500 = MS3 gets ***** unless the AMG driver sucks horribly or didn't know you were racing. From a dig the MS3 might squirt ahead momentarily due to the AMG melting its rear meats, but it would rockey by shortly after. Not even close.

MS3 vs 06 M3 = M3 wins but it could be close. Good driver M3 should win every time.


Oh i guess the guy didnt know how to drive than huh Jr? Well seeing as you dont own a MS3, how the hell can you tell me what a drivers race is? From judging your others post on this board, you might as well sit back and watch because you are ****** clueless.

Go find me another SMG and come out to CA.. Ill show you how to drive...
 
Haltech said:
Follow the history of the Ford 2.3 and the word.. " Cosworth "... Im proud of my Ford engine.. This engine we have in this car was scheduled to go into the 06 SVT Focus...

And i have a powered by Ford decal already on the car.

so tell me what your point is again by calling the Neon SRT-4 a Domestic? Ill tell you right now, ive never seen any SRT-4 line up at the track when the Domestics are called... They line up with the Imports...

I'm not bashing the engine just saying it is ford/mazda's baby.

Dodge = Domestic company so whatever engine is in it, it is still a domestic car.
 
The engine in the new srt is a world engine, its a company that makes engines for motor companies, it is not made by mitsu or dodge.

Read this:
The 2007 Dodge Caliber is powered by a “World Engine” produced at the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA) facility in Dundee, Mich and is sold in Halifax, Nova Scotia. “The 2.4-liter turbocharged World Engine delivers a level of power you’d expect from a V-8,” said Pete Gladysz, Senior Manager – Powertrain, SRT. “With the engine in the 2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4, we were able to take advantage of tried-and-true performance improvements, such as increased cylinder-head flow and higher compression ratio, as well as newer technologies such as Variable Valve Timing (VVT).” (The 4.7 V8, even in High Output form, produces less power.)

The aluminum 2.4-liter World Engine block is specially machined for increased water and oil flow. Unique cast pistons travel within iron cylinder liners, and are cooled by oil squirters and affixed to forged connecting rods for high-revving reliability.

Tri-metal bearings are used for the connecting rods and crankshaft for high-performance durability. A unique oil pump/balance shaft module keeps the reciprocating assembly well-lubricated and running smoothly. An external cooler keeps oil temperatures within a safe range.

The aluminum cylinder head is equipped with unique high-temperature exhaust valves. VVT uses computer mapping to open and close intake and exhaust valves at optimal points for efficient combustion and flow. The camshaft and micro-alloy steel crankshaft, shared with the non-turbocharged 2.4-liter World Engine, are fully capable of high-horsepower loads.

Free-flow induction begins with an air cleaner assembly that draws through an opening in a front crossmember for proximity to cool air. The air is then compressed in a TD04 turbocharger specially configured for the engine’s inlet and outlet packaging requirements, and sent through an intercooler to a 57mm throttle body. (To clarify, the hood scoop is there to cool the engine and turbocharger. The WRX has an interesting alternative with the hood scoop cooling the intercooler!)

Fuel is provided by a high-flow pump feeding injectors developed specifically for the 2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4 in Halifax. An engine management system designed by Siemens -- the Global Powertrain Engine Controller -- keeps the powerplant running at maximum efficiency and power.

On the exhaust side, spent gas exits through a free-flow system that features two catalytic converters – one immediately downstream from the turbo, and another further along the 3-inch single-pipe exhaust system. Using two catalytic converters in this way provides significantly better “light-off” for decreased emissions. As with the previous-generation Dodge SRT4, the exhaust is tuned for maximum performance while meeting federal noise regulations.

Power is transferred through a dual-mass flywheel to the six-speed manual transmission. The dual-mass flywheel consists of two flywheels sandwiching internal springs that are specially tuned to reduce noise and vibration. The GF DMT-6 six-speed transmission, equipped with a limited-slip differential for uniform side-to-side power transfer, is capable of handling up to 300 lb.-ft. of torque.

Torque is sent to the Halifax Dodge Caliber SRT4’s wheels through equal-length halfshafts sourced from Chrysler Group mid-size cars for their larger size and power-handling capability.
 
As ugly as it is this thing will be capable of tons of power and since the tranny is a Getreg it will handle the power. BTW, for those that don't know, Getreg also made the infamous Supra TT 6-speed tranny which is capable of 1000+hp.
 
Who cares if this car has 700hp and 800tq it is still ugly as piss and I wouldn't be caught dead in one :(
 
Kosh said:
Who cares if this car has 700hp and 800tq it is still ugly as piss and I wouldn't be caught dead in one :(
True, I wouldn't buy one either BUT we should see huge numbers and one really fast ugly car. That and this should be a great powertrain to swap into a GOOD looking car like the MSP!! haha
 
kamon8404 said:
I thought that the caliber was going to be AWD? WTF?!?!

They are NOT going to make the SRT in AWD. So yes, some Calibers are AWD...but the SRT will not be for this year. The AWD tranny couldn't handle the power, so they dumped the idea.
 
Haltech said:
Oh i guess the guy didnt know how to drive than huh Jr? Well seeing as you dont own a MS3, how the hell can you tell me what a drivers race is? From judging your others post on this board, you might as well sit back and watch because you are ****** clueless.

Go find me another SMG and come out to CA.. Ill show you how to drive...

And there you go! I'll leave you to your own devices.

Next thing I know you'll be telling me your MS3 can beat an Enzo and because I don't own an MS3, I'll have to believe you.

Facts are facts guy. Everything I said is a fact. Not saying that its not possible. Heck your MS3 COULD beat an ENZO....if the Enzo driver never shifted out of first.

I like be MS3 but come back to reality my good man.
 
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