MPI Tuner for... NA?

Sorry guys, this sounds really interesting, but I have NO clue as to what you are talking about. What does MPI stand for, and how does it work? Also, how much does it cost, as I would love to get one assuming the number gains you have posted are correct. Thanks!
 
MP5driva03 said:
Sorry guys, this sounds really interesting, but I have NO clue as to what you are talking about. What does MPI stand for, and how does it work? Also, how much does it cost, as I would love to get one assuming the number gains you have posted are correct. Thanks!
Modern Performance Inc. is MPI, and it is a piggyback computer that will work with the stock ECU and allow you to control fuel delivery and control timing. That will allow you to tune your car to it's optimum for any mods you may have.
 
Hey people....remember this is a piggyback, a programmable unit. Its not a toy, you will need to tune the car and it takes a bit of dedication and time.

Me for example...sometimes I get so damn frustrated, but its obvious to feel that way because this is a new experience for me, I dont know s*** about tunning, so, if you are going to get this, dont try it alone, ask questions and find solutions.

The MPI works, it just needs to be adapted to every car. Just like APEX, is not a plug and play and go....it will need tunning.
 
igdrasil said:
Hey people....remember this is a piggyback, a programmable unit. Its not a toy, you will need to tune the car and it takes a bit of dedication and time.

Me for example...sometimes I get so damn frustrated, but its obvious to feel that way because this is a new experience for me, I dont know s*** about tunning, so, if you are going to get this, dont try it alone, ask questions and find solutions.

The MPI works, it just needs to be adapted to every car. Just like APEX, is not a plug and play and go....it will need tunning.
I might be headed to our PR plant in August (third week). . .maybe I can help you tune then! Woohoo. . .party in your car! Better be running!

As far at this thread is concerned. . .I think it will work fine. . .there are issues here though. . .you still want to run probably 13:1 to get the most power (not 14.7:1 which is based upon emissions). So, in closed loop you will want to run richer than normal and in open loop, you'll want to pull fuel since it runs so damn rich. So, the tuning will be a pain in the butt. . .but if you tuned it for WOT, it would be easy, but how often are you at WOT? Well, I guess without a turbo, I'd probably do that a lot more. . .
 
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Hey thats great Jeremy....! I hope to not have it blown by then, Im having an issue right now with the aditional injectors, one of them is not injecting fuel.

Why not bring your MSP ecu if you are not using it....maybe it will work fine for me, just for testing purposes, I may buy one from pdhaudio or yours if you want. I just need to get rid of the fuel injection problem and leave the mpi tunner to work with the aditional injectors and timing.
 
First off I want to thank all of you that sent me a PM on the NA setup. I should have the NA MPI Tuner done by the end of this week. The Set up will allow you to set a trigger point in closed loop so you will be able to lean out the AFR and keep it where you want it to be. Open loop is not any problem at all. You will set the point base on throttle input. On the turbo cars we set the point based on boost onset. With the NA car it would be better base on throttle input.


You will have complete control of your timing from idle to red line. So for the people who have done a bunch of mods with their cars, you will find more power then just a bone stock car with no mods. I cannot tell you how much power you will gain, because I do not know. No two cars are the same and the gains will be more if you run better fuel. If you do play with timing and add more advance along with better fuel you should not only find more power but also more midrange torque.

One last thing with the MPI Tuner is the you can take the extra driver we have built into it and use it for NOS control. You will be able to have complete NOS control and many stages.

I will be offering the discount to the first 10 people who e-mail me. The people who e-mailed me are on the list right now. If you still want the units when they are ready to ship please let me know.

Again I want to thank the people who did e-mail me about the MPI Tuner. Working together and not banging heads is the only way better things will come to the Protege world.
 
Nice. Is this like a NA module then? Or is it built into the MPI itself? How much will the regular price NA version be?

Chris
 
DooMer_MP3 said:
Nice. Is this like a NA module then? Or is it built into the MPI itself? How much will the regular price NA version be?

Chris
For now the NA MPI would be $795.00. It is a NA Module. People have asked me about going to a turbo later on. I would exchange the NA for the turbo Module for $15.00 to cover the shipping cost.
 
sweet, unfortunately the funds wont be here in time for the first 10 but I guess Ill have to wait and pay more later, which I dont mind for a good unit....
 
^ same with me....how much would the NA unit be later on at regular pricing?
 
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mp3moose said:
^ same with me....how much would the NA unit be later on at regular pricing?
Do not have ten people yet. Later on may still have the disocunt. $795.00 less 30% for the first ten.
 
MPNick said:
Do not have ten people yet. Later on may still have the disocunt. $795.00 less 30% for the first ten.
did you get my p.m nick? our n/a car is ready to go for testing if you need it
 
MPNick said:
Do not have ten people yet. Later on may still have the disocunt. $795.00 less 30% for the first ten.
Jeez. I would be ready for this if my motor hadn't blown up. I'm still getting parts together to make sure that doesn't happen again.
 
xelderx said:
Jeez. I would be ready for this if my motor hadn't blown up. I'm still getting parts together to make sure that doesn't happen again.
How did you blow up an NA engine? No oil, to many rpms? First ten get the 30% off. You may still be there.
 
MPNick said:
How did you blow up an NA engine? No oil, to many rpms? First ten get the 30% off. You may still be there.
Oil starvation due to oil sloshing away from the oil pick-up. Racing in the mountains never gave the oil enough time to settle in the pan and I lost a rod bearing. All the N/A Proteges that have blown went the same way. We'll see where I'm at, but I have to make sure I don't lose another motor first.
 
xelderx said:
Oil starvation due to oil sloshing away from the oil pick-up. Racing in the mountains never gave the oil enough time to settle in the pan and I lost a rod bearing. All the N/A Proteges that have blown went the same way. We'll see where I'm at, but I have to make sure I don't lose another motor first.
Have you ever seen the Accusump system?

It will hold 2 quarts of oil in a tank under pressure. Then if you pull high Gs and you oil pressusre drops it will send the extra oil back to the engine. Autocross guys use it with good results.

http://www.batinc.net/files/accus.pdf

He is the company that sells them. Ask for Eric or Peter. They are great people.
 
MPNick said:
Have you ever seen the Accusump system?

It will hold 2 quarts of oil in a tank under pressure. Then if you pull high Gs and you oil pressusre drops it will send the extra oil back to the engine. Autocross guys use it with good results.

http://www.batinc.net/files/accus.pdf

He is the company that sells them. Ask for Eric or Peter. They are great people.
The Accusump system has been discussed. The main problem with the Proteges is mounting. There isn't much room in the engine bay for the canister to be mounted.
 

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