More displacemnent????

[laserbluemp5]

I want to increase displacemnent of my 2.0L to like 2.2 or 2.5 is this possible with any available parts Oem or after market i'm sure Rods and pistons will not be a problem but what about cranks ??? is there an after market one I can buy with a longer stroke ???

 

[Black Majik MSP]

That would be an interesting project. I used to be on VWvortex & a lot of those people bore out their engines with good results. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the tech behind this to answer your ?, but I bet someone on here does. GOOD LUCK!

 

[TheMAN]

it is NOT practically possible... the engine block cannot be overbored that much and the engine is already a stroker engine.... doing anything more to it will probably yield you a redline of 4000rpm

 

[YP5 Toronto]

The man......has spoken.... (so much info....inside that brain of his)

 

[iON Performance]

laserbluemp5 - a very slight overbore of 0.050 maybe possible, which would only yield a couple more cc.

If you're planning on staying N/A, we recommend having the heads done properly for reshaping the combustion chamber as well as getting cams and higher C/R pistons

 

[laserbluemp5]

thanx for your help guys.....but I heard that there was a a 2.2 fs engine that was in a 626...so if our engines can only be bored out to .050 over stock that would only bring our engines to about 2000cc's maybe a little over . That leaves me to belive that there is a crank out there that will give me a longer stroke . A well built and balanced / blue printed rotating assembly along with the right valvetrain components should yeild a higher then stock redline . The engine I'm building is for turbo application . Where is this crank ??? does it exist ???

 

[TheMAN]

the 2.2l engine is the F2 engine and is completely different from the FS, NONE of the internals interchange... the whole physical dimensions of the F2 engine is MUCH larger than the FS... you sound like you don't know much about engines.. you should try howstuffworks.com for starters to know how an engine works

 

[iON Performance]

laserbluemp5 - increasing the stroke further will hamper your rod:stroke length. This won't neccesarily be ideal for Turbo anymore.

A suggestion would be to try turbo'ing the car first to see if you like the power. Then, buy a 2nd FS motor to build just in case, so that if the stock one blows, swap in the new one!

 

[laserbluemp5]

the 2.2l engine is the F2 engine and is completely different from the FS, NONE of the internals interchange... the whole physical dimensions of the F2 engine is MUCH larger than the FS... you sound like you don't know much about engines.. you should try howstuffworks.com for starters to know how an engine works

thanx for the info i have been trying to research this engine for the last few hours and i just came across the same info on the other forum . BTW I happen to be a turbo diesel technician for a living and I'm use to building american muscle cars as a hobby and have done fairly well at it . I'm sorry if my comprehension of engine technology sounds foreign to you (spank) I have been building my car for a little over 4 months now and have spent a little over $10k on it and I have'nt even really touched the engine (the root of my beast)

 

[laserbluemp5]

Thanx ION Ithink 2 motors is definitely the way to go ! But if not I have'nt driven my car in over 5 months so if it's down for another 3 or 4 it won't bother me much

And I need brakes do you offer bigger front and rear brakes or just fronts ??

 

[twilightprotege]

yep, dont stroke the engine anymore, but having recently taken the head off, with very good oil cooler and radiator, the engine should take 2mm bigger bore - that'll take engine capacity to just under 2.1L (2088.22cc to be exact)

that's the way i'm heading

 

[iON Performance]

laserbluemp5 - We offer just larger front kits for the Proteges right now. For our Subaru stuff, we've got F&R.

Drop us an email, I think we've got what you're looking for in terms of stoppers

 

[mp5]

I believe the 2.0 FS motor we have is actually a stoked version of the 1.8 FS. That being said, I don't think you'll have much more room to stroke it further. I have no idea how much room you have to bore out this motor but thats proprably your only way to increase displacment.

 

[323CiP5]

I think you should be able to port and polish to help smooth out the flow of A/F. don't think that the engine can be bored. Also this is an aluminum block right? (dont think it would be a good idea to bore an aluminum block

 

[perfworks]

Ion has good points.
My second motor along with pistons were for .020 over. That seems to be a safe zone. 9:1 compression and a small T3 will work well for you

 

[twilightprotege]

the engine can be bored - it's an iron block. i've had the head off (while getting ported) and it should handle 2mm overbore very easy, you could even get away with 3mm, but that's pushing it...probably too far

and the 2.0L fsde is a stroked version of the 1.8L yes.

 

[Little Beavis]

I thought someone already had a kit for doing something like this. It was listed in the MP3 aftermarket section, but the link doesn't work. Sorry to sound stupid, but it was Thomas Knight according to that non-functioning link. Don't know if it is true or anything about it though.

 

[falkofire]

yes....it was a thomas Knight Stroker kit, and the forum has since then come to discover a lack of quality in all of his products. I haven't heard of any kits since that one

 

[TheMAN]

room and reliability are different things.... I'm sure you can bore the s*** out of the engine, but can it handle the stresses for many high strung runs? don't think so

the engine can be bored - it's an iron block. i've had the head off (while getting ported) and it should handle 2mm overbore very easy, you could even get away with 3mm, but that's pushing it...probably too far

and the 2.0L fsde is a stroked version of the 1.8L yes.

 

[Brian MP5T]

I want to increase displacemnent of my 2.0L to like 2.2 or 2.5 is this possible with any available parts Oem or after market i'm sure Rods and pistons will not be a problem but what about cranks ??? is there an after market one I can buy with a longer stroke ???

I have had my engine completely apart for forged internals, clutch, flywheel and there isn't a lot of room for you to play with. Stroking is probably all that you can do with any reliability, but then you loose your Red-Line to Stroking. This little bastard 2.0 powerplant has been around a long time. You shouldn't have great dificulty finding someone who has done it. Have you considered Forced Induction. With the amount of work you are going to do just to pick up 0.2 or Whatever L of displacement why not just turn it up to 10.0 Psi and pick up 1.5 L of displacement.

Later Man(whitep5)