mm. vs inserts

[koston33]

I don't really know a lot about both these parts, but have read about how they handle. I just want to know what are the major differences, and which is better to do in your opinion?

 

[GhostMercury]

im curious about the CS inserts as well because i heard after about 200 miles the vibes go away. But they still stiffen it up. So if i can have someone confirm that they dont vibe i wil order right now. I have been there with the MM in my msp and i can't stand vibes anymore. I personally believe learning how to clutch smoother is a better trade off then the vibes

 

[aaronc7]

No vibes with the corksport. I've had it for 10k miles. It definitely improves shifting feel and wheelhop. I mean honestly it probably doesn't work "as well" as a full MM, but I personally don't want any extra vibes, since it's my DD. I think these things are probably the best thing for the money so far for the car!

 

[mckraut]

My CS inserts are going in this weekend, I'll let you know how it pans out.

 

[koston33]

ya that would be great, so the inserts just improve wheel hop and opt for better shifting, but not as well as the full motor mounts, but Im looking at more vibes with the motor mounts??

 

[BLAZEONE]

CS Inserts - No Vibes, decreased wheel hop, increased shift feel

VS.

MM - Vibes, additional decrease in wheel hop, additional increase in shift feel

 

[koston33]

I'm just wondering how bad the vibes are. I mean is does the benefit of getting the mm (decrease in wheel hop and smoother shifting) outweigh the cost of mm (price and vibes). Some one with the mm tell me what you think. Also I was considering the SU mm any opinions?

 

[jaydubz]

If you think about it the inserts are the dealer friendly way of stiffening up your shifter feel. A full replacement MM in my opinion is for a more serious tuner who does not mind a very vibration filled cabin. I have this car as a DD so I need something that is the best of both worlds. My inserts will be here within a couple of days.

 

[koston33]

lmk what you think about them. Are the vibes that intense

 

[GhostMercury]

yes the vibes are bad no matter what anyone says you DEFFINATLY do notice them. been there done that...not worth it

 

[MADTIG]

yes the vibes are bad no matter what anyone says you DEFFINATLY do notice them. been there done that...not worth it

HUH?? I just installed my CS inserts couple days ago and i don't notice any vibes AT ALL!! Climate has got to play some role cause i don't understand posts like this. Posts like this kept me from getting the TRZ and so i went inserts. It's been hot out here. Whats the climate like for those of you who claim vibes?

 

[MicaSp33d]

i got the poly trz mm and vibes started going away about after a couple of days. Just drive it hard and it will set in a lot faster. When i first put it in and started it up ... oh man .. i thought the vibes where too much and was glad i didn't get the delrin mm. Its been less than a weak and the vibrations have greatly reduced .. could be due to this hot weather in cali, 90 degress.

 

[ElBartoRex]

I put in the TRZ poly mount and thought the vibes were going to be unbearable-- I commute 80 miles highway round trip every day.

I put the MM in, and yeah there are some vibes, but it is nothing like I thought it was going to be. With normal cruising I barely feel it. It's only really noticable when letting out the clutch from a stop-- once you are in gear I really don't notice it that much at all.

People that are swapping the TRZ poly out for for DD reasons must have some sensitive bums..

One member said that it felt like he was driving on rumble strips all the time-- mine isn't like that at all.

 

[koston33]

I guess after hearing about the bad vibes, I guess I will go with the inserts. Any opinions on which ones to get.

 

[BLAZEONE]

this topic has been victim to opinion far to many times. You should either:

A) search the topic and see countless opinions

B) purchase the 35$ inserts

C) purchase the inserts and mm, and test separately

Do you want someone to tell you what to buy???

Sure, go buy the inserts. I have them, with No Vibes (as stated above) and since I do not race my car, I am more than satisfied.

Install time is equal

 

[GhostMercury]

HUH?? I just installed my CS inserts couple days ago and i don't notice any vibes AT ALL!! Climate has got to play some role cause i don't understand posts like this. Posts like this kept me from getting the TRZ and so i went inserts. It's been hot out here. Whats the climate like for those of you who claim vibes?

i said that towards MM not inserts

 

[MADTIG]

Look, here's how i look at it. The inserts are only $35. If you end up thinking nothing of the vibes then just upgrade to TRZ. $35 inserts are still a great improvement over stock and at least you'll personally find out if the "vibe" statements are true or not.

 

[MADTIG]

i said that towards MM not inserts

My bad..

 

[neox.286]

honestly, I dont personally own a speed3 but I have done a fair bit of work on 'em......I have ridden in them stock, with the delrin mount, and with the TRZ and to tell the straight truth, you can NOT even tell the trz is there, the delrin is more noticeable but not that bad....it goes away almost completely when in gear and at idle is more of a VERY soft -rumble- than a vibration

granted I dont daily drive the ms3 but until you ride in a car with stiffer mounts all around you dont know what vibrations are =P
personally my msp has AWR front and rears with a SLS Performance passenger side (all three had originally torn) and while those vibrations are bad in a cold startup they go away almost completely while doing normal driving as well


my recomendation:
find a local with a trz mount and ride in it....only you can tell if its going to be too much for you, a lot of people on the cali forums get the mount thinking they are gonna hate it and then end up loving it

 

[koston33]

Good point. I will try to find someone around me with the trz mounts, and get my own opinion. Thanks guys.