Mazdaspeed 3

[Black Majik MSP]

They will if they do the same thing with the RX-8. Bump it up to... say... 350hp. I can't imagine how much gas that would suck but it's concievable. If they can equal a twin-turbo RX-7 with a N/A Renesis, then I'm sure a 50% jump on the Renesis is possible.

If they offer the MazdaSpeed RX-8 and 3 at the same time, there won't be any loss of market share for either

When will you people realize that the Mazdaspeed RX8 is ALREADY out. It's just the handling & appearance items available in Japan or ordered through your dealer. There is not going to be any power increase in the RX8 in the foreseeable future.

I've also pointed out several times that a Mazdaspeed 3, if made at all, will most likely only be offered in Japan (as stated in magazines).

(hand)

 

[Black Majik MSP]

wait till Im done with this turbo set up and I will dyno it. im gonna dyno before and after , and post the dynos so everyone can see. Now this is a total custom turbo so it really wont be for sale anytime soon. But I will show numbers just to show you what a turbo will do. I am hoping around 200hp, and I will be fine with that.

Vivid Racing is only getting 200hp out of a Mazda 3 with a turbo kit? I hope you're not talking about the 2.3L.

 

[Gen1GT]

Everything we're saying is speculation. We won't know until it's done. The Mazdaspeed3 IS coming to North America, it was in a CNN press release. And they don't care about petty stuff like this to bother spreading misinformation. Also, the Mazdaspeed RX8 IS coming here too, and possibly with more power.

 

[Gen1GT]

They won't have too...the SRT-6 is coming out soon & it will have a lot more power than the SRT-4.

I know, but that's not the point. My point was that people are going to cross shop the RX-8 and the Mazda3. Two totally different cars.

 

[krb1482]

well, if anyone knows or can find out for sure any information about a mazdaspeed 3, please let me know because this would be the only car that i would consider trading my mp3 in on. I like the styling and the overall appearance(which is a big thing to me considering how sharp the mp3 is and how many comments I still get on it). only valid info please, and can we all stop bickering about stupid s***. People all saying they know this and that and what not but everyone has to be better than the rest. sorry to b****, but just getting tired of reading other peoples bad comments towards everyone, later

 

[mdaj]

The Mazdaspeed RX8 not only had body-kit and suspension changes but I believe it also had exhaust, and pcm upgrade to 280ps.

Edit- Here is a link http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=669. I can't find the official Mazda release.

Sorry for hi-jacking. I will give serious thought if a Mazdaspeed 3 was released even though I shouldn't...

 

[eting_pro5]

i think most of us who doubt 240 HP are those who are afraid of the price tag that would come with it.

don't get me wrong. I'm one of the few not hung up with HP #'s and a I think people hung up on 1/4 times need to grow up. But sadly,the genereal public, magazines, etc are hung up on numbers. Why else would the damn srt4 be beating the msp in road tests?

 

[r1ceburner]

Motor Trend did a review of the pre-Release Mazdaspeed RX-8 at mazda's test track somewhere in Japan (probably in Tokyo). At any rate, the changes they made were mostly suspension, front air dam, larger exhaust and a reworked air intake. The changes they made to ECU were geared towards make more torque lower in the powerband and increased breathing on the top end. The resulting engine only made 255hp, but picked up an additional 30 ft/lbs. of torque and made most of that below 3000rpm.

The reviewers said that the change in the motor was not staggering, but the throttle response improved and the car also no launched like a rocket. Because of the additional torque, the engine felt like it had gained much more power than it actually had.

If I can find an online link to the article, I'll post it.

The Mazdaspeed RX8 not only had body-kit and suspension changes but I believe it also had exhaust, and pcm upgrade to 280ps.

Edit- Here is a link http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=669. I can't find the official Mazda release.

Sorry for hi-jacking. I will give serious thought if a Mazdaspeed 3 was released even though I shouldn't...

 

[big_guy]

Mazdaspeed

For those that doubt the tuning potential of the 2.3L engine used in the Mazda 3s and the Mazda 6i, I found the following article ...

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1481

The vehicle in the article has the AWD system in addition to the high output engine ... and looking at the photos, it appears they have used the Mazda 6 hatch as the model for the modifications.

 

[mdaj]

There is no doubt. The MPS concept further shows that. Cosworth also plans to release an est 100hp rebuild package that will make the 2.3 turbo ready.

 

[Da 6]

i've always fancied the 3' 5 door.... if they make a speed version of it... my msp might be getting traded in. how does that work though? like...how much money do we get for it and what if we have some modifications on it?

If it can be removed and/or you have the stock parts still then thats your best bet...go back stock. From experiance it's a beioch if you did actual electrical stuff...I had headlight flashers, neon lights and amps plus bolt ons. just sell them to a menber here to get parts for your new car.

 

[razorblade kiss]

They MS Miatas start at 26, and those things are tiny. I wouldn't be suprised it a MS 3 costs above 30k.

 

[zoomzoom02]

There is no way it could cost 30k. The target age is something like 18-30. If it is anything over 25k no one would buy...IMO

 

[Da 6]

There is no way it could cost 30k. The target age is something like 18-30. If it is anything over 25k no one would buy...IMO

srt and evo was targeted at youth as well but they have sticker prices and insurances quotes bigger than what I could afford. Only people I see driving them are snotty rich kids and like 38-43 year old males . mazda 6 mps is gonna be a pretty penny with the same specs almost but with minor interior tweaks like blue lighed gauges and boost gauge being reverse under engine temp gauge...and looks alot like and even better than TL!!! I bet money they will still water it down when it gets here...6 has no navi package in us/canada...just overseas.

 

[r1ceburner]

$30,000 my arse...

They MS Miatas start at 26, and those things are tiny. I wouldn't be suprised it a MS 3 costs above 30k.

Keep in mind that Miatas are marketed at well-to-do female business executives and 30 to 45 year old men going through a mid-life crisis. Those people can (and do) afford a $26K+ car. That's not the crowd that the Mazda3 is aimed at.

There is no way in hell Mazda would put out a MZ3 for $30K. Won't happen. Was the MSP $30K? It was barely half of that. I'm no expert, but I expect that they will play it somewhat safe and put out a FWD car with 200+HP and a LSD. If the later come out with a Super Mega Mazdaspeed3, that might have AWD and could approach $30K. That will only happen if they decide to take aim at the Mitsu EVO VIII and WRX STI. That's a low volume market with not a ton of profit, so I don't see that happening.

 

[Mardorf]

If I were to spend $30k on a car, it would not be for the Mazda3. I rather shell out my coins on the Infiniti G35 Coupe instead. IMHO

 

[Gen1GT]

It won't cost 30gs. You'd be suprised at how low they can sell it for. Remember, they probably won't make any money off them, they'll be an 'image' car. Like the SRT-4, which Chrysler makes absolutely no money on, but look what's it's done to their image, and the image of the neon. Now they have respect.

 

[zoomzoom02]

Custom turbo, or mazdaspeed?

I am in the market for a new car in the fall, i may trade mine in, now i want one soon. Should i wait for the mazdaspeed 3 or get a 3 and customize it(turbo, kit. etc)?

 

[razorblade kiss]

It won't cost 30gs. You'd be suprised at how low they can sell it for. Remember, they probably won't make any money off them, they'll be an 'image' car. Like the SRT-4, which Chrysler makes absolutely no money on, but look what's it's done to their image, and the image of the neon. Now they have respect.

We shall see. (blah)

 

[crossbow]