Mazda Likes To Screw Us

[Hughes412]

See, this is what I absolutely HATE about America. People think they can just sue everybody at the drop of a hat. You're willing to not only waste valuable time and money over a f'ing CD changer, but even a class action?

OP, did you CHECK the car for the CD changer when you picked it up? My sales guy showed me how mine worked. Before buying the car, I knew the differences between Sport and GT. I checked my invloice and sticker line by line so I knew what I was and wasn't paying for. My dealer tried to stick me with the $199 VIN etching fee I told them I didn't want (twice) and I made them re-do EVERY bit of paperwork.

Sorry to rant and rave, but I'm just SO tired of people suing others for stupid crap like this. Take SOME responsibility that you didn't check the car before you handed over the cash. If not, give the car back to the dealer and cancel the purchase. End of story.

I too am against sue happy people. But they didn't get what they paid for.
You say you checked line for line. But you didn't check to see if it was an mp3 player. Not unless you took an mp3 disk and put it in the car. So no you didn't check. Now you might have had a better sales person, but in your case you must not have had the same sticker or you good sales person would have pointed out the mistake.

 

[II-Savy]

There is a diff between sue happy and wrong sticker. It says a Bose system, he didn't get one. It's simple.

 

[SwampAss]

Anyone who has read anything about this car knows what comes standard and what does not comes standard. The sport model comes with the standard radio. This isn't new news. It's apparent the moment you open the door and look at the stereo. It's at that time, if you are really concerned that the equipment is incorrect, you should have raised the issue. What's the first thing you see when you sit down? Well, to me, it was the radio.

We didn't buy this car for the stereo. At least I didn't. Going after a manufacturer after something erroneously listed to me is weak sauce.
The sticker on my car listed a BOSE and CD changer. I KNEW when I bought it that it was not correct. I figured it was a typo, bought the car anyway, and haven't second guessed it for a second. Maybe that's how I was raised. I don't know. Just doesn't seem right.

 

[highwaypizza]

Anyone who has read anything about this car knows what comes standard and what does not comes standard. The sport model comes with the standard radio. This isn't new news. It's apparent the moment you open the door and look at the stereo. It's at that time, if you are really concerned that the equipment is incorrect, you should have raised the issue. What's the first thing you see when you sit down? Well, to me, it was the radio.

We didn't buy this car for the stereo. At least I didn't. Going after a manufacturer after something erroneously listed to me is weak sauce.
The sticker on my car listed a BOSE and CD changer. I KNEW when I bought it that it was not correct. I figured it was a typo, bought the car anyway, and haven't second guessed it for a second. Maybe that's how I was raised. I don't know. Just doesn't seem right.

I haven't posted on this in a little while. I was treading lightly in the shark infested waters of litigation happy individuals. But FINALY there are people here that know the difference between an honest mistake by Mazda and being 'screwed' by Mazda. A consienscious buyer ALWAYS checks the car before leaving the delaer's lot and ALWAYS knows what they are buying
before they buy it. I spent 20 minutes in my MS3 checking EVERYTHING before driving off the dealer's lot.

BTW: I paid for my Bose, its called the MS3 GT.

 

[randyscycle]

All I see here is a bunch of kids who are so selfish that they find something to b**** about when their parents buy them a TWENTY TWO THOUSAND dollar car. God knows we can't just listen to that nice motor like I do.

I think this really hits it on the head. I've read a lot of posts threatening to sue over the most minor infraction, and the only thing that comes to mind, is: do you even have a clue what it takes to start a lawsuit, or follow through? For the want of a stupid stereo? Besides, that kind of crap is why a car costs what it does......not because of the wonderful new technology. Mazda probably has a rather large battery of lawyers on retainer.

 

[Hughes412]

I will bet 100.00 dollars that this is cause for a law suite. It doesn't matter what you put on a web site or anything ells. It's all about the invoice! If the invoice says you have bose then that car better have bose! Any one that has ran a buisness will tell you, if they do a service or have a product and you pay for it but don't get it the company OWES you that product or service.

No where on mazdas site does it say that a car CAN NOT be a sport and have the bose ordered.

I also know grown men that are so ignorant when it comes to cars that they don't know were to even start to look for options.

The guys that think there is not a problem here, I've got one thing to say.

I have ocean front property here in Austin that I'll sell you for 100 bucks!

 

[II-Savy]

I will bet 100.00 dollars that this is cause for a law suite. It doesn't matter what you put on a web site or anything ells. It's all about the invoice! If the invoice says you have bose then that car better have bose! Any one that has ran a buisness will tell you, if they do a service or have a product and you pay for it but don't get it the company OWES you that product or service.

No where on mazdas site does it say that a car CAN NOT be a sport and have the bose ordered.

I also know grown men that are so ignorant when it comes to cars that they don't know were to even start to look for options.

The guys that think there is not a problem here, I've got one thing to say.

I have ocean front property here in Austin that I'll sell you for 100 bucks!

Absolutly. It's clearly false advertising. At the very very least, they owe him a Bose Stereo system.

 

[meha11]

Interesting.
Today is the first I knew of all this. I have the same window sticker as EC but I knew what I was buying at the time, I knew I was not getting the good stuff. I must admit the temptation is there to go see what I can get out of it. However I had no issues until 20 mins ago.
I use the word interesting because different people have different views.
I am English, its not in my culture to sue people for what ever I can get, like I said I had no problems until 20 mins ago.
If you genuinely bought one of these cars based on the window sticker then go get your system. If not be honest and do nothing.

 

[Olestra]

And the vicious circle continues.

All those that are against suing, I bet if someone or a group of ppl decided to take action and Mazda offered every Speed Sport owner compensation for their illegal stickers as a result, you would be at the dealership by the next week getting your free stuff.

 

[GDorris]

I can't speak for anyone else, but when I went to look at and buy my Sport, I was pleasantly surprised to see on the sticker that it had the stereo upgrade. I had not memorized the specs from magazines or internet (not exactly the most reliable sources anyway). I was especially glad about the MP3 capacity. My sales guy knew a fair amount about the car but not the stereo. I mentioned the MP3 and CD changer to my wife with him in the car but I am guessing that he was clueless. After buying the car I even tried to get a MP3 disc to play and figure how to load more than one CD. I discovered the problem within 2 days of purchase on this forum. I spoke to the sales manager who said Mazda had informed the dealers of the problem and that they were protected from liability by "a disclaimer on the sticker." People and corporations make mistakes and there are laws about that regulate the accuracy of advertisement. I was misled by the sticker. I got a great car for a great deal ($1,400 below MSRP) but I was mistakenly led to believe I was paying for a Bose Stereo due to someone's mistake. I do not like being blown off without so much as a "sorry" from the dealer. I am waiting for a response to my letter from Mazda and will probably go to the consumer affairs division of the Attorney General of WA state if Mazda does not do a better job of owning what is an honest mistake. Does "Mazda like to screw us"? Not at all. Do they keep making these stupid mistakes? Absolutely.

 

[Hughes412]

Interesting.
Today is the first I knew of all this. I have the same window sticker as EC but I knew what I was buying at the time, I knew I was not getting the good stuff. I must admit the temptation is there to go see what I can get out of it. However I had no issues until 20 mins ago.
I use the word interesting because different people have different views.
I am English, its not in my culture to sue people for what ever I can get, like I said I had no problems until 20 mins ago.
If you genuinely bought one of these cars based on the window sticker then go get your system. If not be honest and do nothing.

WELL SAID!!!

 

[Hughes412]

I would like to see this disclaimer!

 

[quiet desperado]

See, this is what I absolutely HATE about America. People think they can just sue everybody at the drop of a hat. You're willing to not only waste valuable time and money over a f'ing CD changer, but even a class action?

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Sorry to rant and rave, but I'm just SO tired of people suing others for stupid crap like this. Take SOME responsibility that you didn't check the car before you handed over the cash. If not, give the car back to the dealer and cancel the purchase. End of story.

I agree everybody shouldn't sue everybody for everything at the drop of a hat. I knew my car didn't have 6 CD changer and didn't rely on the sticker anyway. But there is a reason that there is a FEDERAL law requiring stickers to be accurate. There a lot of slippery stuff that goes on at some dealers. And manufacturers often look the other way b/c they don't want to alienate the dealers. So, at least let's have accurate stickers.

What if they're was a "typo" or other misrespresentation on something you couldn't check yourself or do your homework about? Would you want the dealer and manufacturer to be able to argue that it was just a mistake and doesn't really matter. No, because it would matter to you and you relied on the information on the sticker. It is, in part, the threat of lawsuits that keep this sort of thing from happening more regularly.

 

[Rotus8]

I would like to see this disclaimer!

"Mazda Motor Company reserves the right to change product specifications, options or prices at any time without incurring obligations. This information should be used as an estimate only. Manufacturer's Suggested Base Price excludes any tax, title, license, national and/or regional incentives and will vary according to the region of the country, actual prices and any selected options. Actual pricing is set by the dealer. Please see your local Mazda dealer for the latest dealership pricing and ordering information."

 

[dcomiskey]

Absolutly. It's clearly false advertising. At the very very least, they owe him a Bose Stereo system.

I hope you never get near any lawyers... The MS3 is CLEARLY advertised with TWO options packages: Sport and GT. End of story. Like other people, I did my homework before buying the car. I knew specifically why I wanted the GT over the Sport and the Bose/6CD was a major reason.

This kid isn't owed s***. Sorry, but let's stop being babies here. It was an honest mistake by Mazda, not some CIA conspiracy.(enguard)

 

[Hikaru9]

I really appreciate your honesty. *^_^*

Interesting.
Today is the first I knew of all this. I have the same window sticker as EC but I knew what I was buying at the time, I knew I was not getting the good stuff. I must admit the temptation is there to go see what I can get out of it. However I had no issues until 20 mins ago.
I use the word interesting because different people have different views.
I am English, its not in my culture to sue people for what ever I can get, like I said I had no problems until 20 mins ago.
If you genuinely bought one of these cars based on the window sticker then go get your system. If not be honest and do nothing.

I think it's unfortunate that some of us feel very strongly about the typo and feel that Mazda is "screwing" people, and it maybe hard to disagree with someone who says, "but I'm entitled to get everything on the sticker."

I, just like the most of the car enthusiasts, read the spec sheet + every single magazine reviews many times over and know exactly what I should expect to see when I have my MS3 GT delivered in two weeks. It might be wrong of me to assume that the most people on the forum are Mazda enthusiasts (but I think so anyway). If I recall correctly, the sport trim does not come with the upgraded stereo. Would I be concerned if my GT comes without the Bose? Definitely, but would I care if my Sport didn't come with one regardless of what the sticker says? No... since it's not supposed to have it in the first place. Just my two cents. ^_^ (I'm really bummed out about the lack of mp3 CDs and heated seats, however)

Off topic here's an interesting stat I read the other day:

The ratio of engineers vs. lawyers here in the U.S. - 1: 10

The ratio of engineers vs. lawyers in Japan - 10: 1

 

[GDorris]

"Mazda Motor Company reserves the right to change product specifications, options or prices at any time without incurring obligations. This information should be used as an estimate only. Manufacturer's Suggested Base Price excludes any tax, title, license, national and/or regional incentives and will vary according to the region of the country, actual prices and any selected options. Actual pricing is set by the dealer. Please see your local Mazda dealer for the latest dealership pricing and ordering information."

Where did this quote come from? It is not on my sticker.

 

[Hughes412]

"Mazda Motor Company reserves the right to change product specifications, options or prices at any time without incurring obligations. This information should be used as an estimate only. Manufacturer's Suggested Base Price excludes any tax, title, license, national and/or regional incentives and will vary according to the region of the country, actual prices and any selected options. Actual pricing is set by the dealer. Please see your local Mazda dealer for the latest dealership pricing and ordering information."

I meant I want to see this on the sticker.

And per this statement alone, it says that the options can change at any time! There for the sport CAN be equipped with the Bose system. I do not believe this disclaimer is on the sticker. The sticker (also per one of the car salesman her) is a list of whats on the car when sold, unless something has been done to the car. Then you will see another sticker showing you that work and price. It has to be on the car.

 

[Hughes412]

I hope you never get near any lawyers... The MS3 is CLEARLY advertised with TWO options packages: Sport and GT. End of story. Like other people, I did my homework before buying the car. I knew specifically why I wanted the GT over the Sport and the Bose/6CD was a major reason.

This kid isn't owed s***. Sorry, but let's stop being babies here. It was an honest mistake by Mazda, not some CIA conspiracy.(enguard)

Well, I don't know about you but I think a 600+ dollar sound system is a major reason to be pissed. And like my last post, THEY CAN change options at any time. So yes it could have come with the sound system.

 

[Rotus8]

Where did this quote come from? It is not on my sticker.

It came from the pro forma sticker for my car, downloaded from their web site. I would expect to see it on the actual sticker, but not having my car yet I can't check.
I got there from the Mazdausa web site, "Build you Mazdaspeed3". At the end there is an opportunity to download an image of the sticker that would be presumably for the car you specify. Go through the parts specifiying your car; on the Summary page on the left there is an item "Print Window Sticker".