Mazda Issues Stop Sale on MS3 CAI

[elieleb1303]

off topic, but tunersteve did u get ur tint done yet?

 

[///M Compact]

No problem; I'm heading over to the tool-free forum...

 

[eddelgado]

So what is this latest info from sources. As far as I have been able to determine the two options are:

a - The intake is not CARB approved.

b - The intake has a larger diameter in the MAF area that leads to a leaner mixture which can throw a code. If this is thought to be the case there is an expectation that a new flash will be made available.

So which is it or is there something else new?

Ed

 

[///M Compact]

b- I've heard that a CAI specific reflash is definitely in the works...

 

[tunersteve]

No problem; I'm heading over to the tool-free forum...

Were you referring to me?

 

[tunersteve]

b- I've heard that a CAI specific reflash is definitely in the works...

Yes, I've also heard more prominently that B is the correct reason for the stop sale, and that they were working on a solution, most likely a reflash after install to help with the CEL problems.

 

[///M Compact]

Were you referring to me?

No, it's obvious that you possess opposable thumbs...

 

[tunersteve]

No, it's obvious that you possess opposable thumbs...

Haha, thanks, I'll consider that a compliment then...

 

[///M Compact]

I'm tired of waiting, I'm putting my MS CAI on this weekend if I can find the time...

 

[PeterC]

Any chance Mazda releases an SRI instead of a CAI? That would be fantastic. I would love to have that under factory warranty.

 

[GhostMercury]

This would be a good idea for mazda and hopefully a new design to fix the cel problems. Though a reflash would work just fine. As long as it doesn't decrease the amount of power made from the CAI.

 

[MS3077]

Where is the proof that it makes anymore power than a SRI?

 

[tunersteve]

Where is your proof that it makes anymore power than a SRI?

Since it's located in the lower portion of the inner fender, it pulls in colder air than it would if it were in the engine bay itself. The lower the intake air temperature, the better, increasing horsepower. Same principle that intercoolers work by. Lower initial air temps improve the efficiency of the turbo and motor itself.

 

[hilmar2k]

Since it's located in the lower portion of the inner fender, it pulls in colder air than it would if it were in the engine bay itself. The lower the intake air temperature, the better, increasing horsepower. Same principle that intercoolers work by. Lower initial air temps improve the efficiency of the turbo and motor itself.

That is all absolutely true......if you are sitting at a red light.

 

[MS3077]

CAI's are way over-rated in a turboed car.

 

[GhostMercury]

!!!!!!!Who cares which is better. Honestly people look at the title of this thread, its not about your dam cobb SRI, Its about information on the stop sale issued for the Mazdaspeed Cold Air Intake. Stop fighting like little girls, and posting information about CAI's that are not Mazdaspeed. Lets get information on the stop sale guys!!!!!!!!!

 

[camrycev6]

CAI's are way over-rated in a turboed car.

Sorry I know this is still off topic, but I just have to say this statement is absolutely incorrect.

For NA vehicles, a CAI provides minimal increases because the overall pressure / density is much lower than a FI vehicle. For FI vehicles, since you are operating at much higher pressures, the higher density achieved by colder air has an exponential increase in performance. It really is simple physics. Check out the dynos for your proof. My numbers are in my sig.

Now that we have dispelled that rumor... back on topic. I will be looking forward to reading any new data on the MS CAI stop-sale.

 

[Betelgeuse]

Since it's located in the lower portion of the inner fender, it pulls in colder air than it would if it were in the engine bay itself. The lower the intake air temperature, the better, increasing horsepower. Same principle that intercoolers work by. Lower initial air temps improve the efficiency of the turbo and motor itself.

In theory yes, but from experience no (I had both and ran them back to back on the same day). Besides, someone did a dyno recently and differences were so minute as to not really matter although, imo, the SRI actually pulled better in the lower gears.

 

[MS3077]

Sorry I know this is still off topic, but I just have to say this statement is absolutely incorrect.

For NA vehicles, a CAI provides minimal increases because the overall pressure / density is much lower than a FI vehicle. For FI vehicles, since you are operating at much higher pressures, the higher density achieved by colder air has an exponential increase in performance. It really is simple physics. Check out the dynos for your proof. My numbers are in my sig.

Now that we have dispelled that rumor... back on topic. I will be looking forward to reading any new data on the MS CAI stop-sale.

I'm talking about CAI's vs SRI's in turboed cars.

 

[mazpro]

!!!!!!!Who cares which is better. Honestly people look at the title of this thread, its not about your dam cobb SRI, Its about information on the stop sale issued for the Mazdaspeed Cold Air Intake. Stop fighting like little girls, and posting information about CAI's that are not Mazdaspeed. Lets get information on the stop sale guys!!!!!!!!!

(yes) keep in on topic guys.