Mazda Issues Stop Sale on MS3 CAI

[///M Compact]

you post this all over the forum. but what you never seem to understand is that NOT EVERYONE goes to your dealership. EVERY dealership is different and just because your dealership is ok with cobb dont tell people it is ok in general.

X2

My dealer doesn't like non-MS stuff. That said, they do good work and I have free 5K mile oil changes for as long as I own the car. Could I slap on a Cobb SRI and fight with them over Magnuson Moss? Sure, but FOR ME it just isn't worth the hassle.

 

[MS3077]

you post this all over the forum. but what you never seem to understand is that NOT EVERYONE goes to your dealership. EVERY dealership is different and just because your dealership is ok with cobb dont tell people it is ok in general. becase it is not. I dont wana see some poor sap listen to you and not get warranty work because of it

I didn't say nor imply that "every" dealer is cool with any MOD! However, I do think a lot of ppl on this forum are a little scared to MOD their cars because of miss-information due to folks like yourself swearing by the MS products and warranty voiding if it doesn't say "Mazdaspeed" on it.

My point is this: Just talk to your service people first and then decide if you have to go the MS part route because if you don't you might be wasting a lot of money and quite possibly hydro lock if you live in a rainy/ stormy climate like myself.

 

[MS3077]

I didn't say nor imply that "every" dealer is cool with any MOD! However, I do think a lot of ppl on this forum are a little scared to MOD their cars because of miss-information due to folks like yourself swearing by the MS products and warranty voiding if it doesn't say "Mazdaspeed" on it.

My point is this: Just talk to your service people first and then decide if you have to go the MS part route because if you don't you might be wasting a lot of money and quite possibly hydro lock if you live in a rainy/ stormy climate like myself.

+1

 

[GhostMercury]

+1 to yourself??

 

[MS3077]

+1 to yourself??

Yes.

 

[Ferdball]

Keep that up and you'll grow hairy palms.

 

[MS3077]

Keep that up and you'll grow hairy palms.

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about??

 

[tunersteve]

I just wanna say that this hydrolock nonsense is just that. That wasn't the issue that the CAI got stopped in the first place, so let it rest.

If you wanna go out and buy one its your choice. Everyone has their reasons, whatever they may be. If not, there's Fujita, Injen, AEM (which is the same as the MS), CP-E, or Cobb. You've got options. If you're worried about the intake having a warranty, it still goes back somewhat to the whole 'Pay To Play' fundamentals.

To quote the instructions from the CAI:

'Note: Mazdaspeed Accessories carry a different warranty than Genuine Mazda Accessories. Review the applicable warranty statement with your Mazdaspeed dealer. This product is sold under the Mazdaspeed Green Warranty Satement.'

To quote the MS Green warranty:
'Mazdaspeed "Green" Performance accessories must be specifically approved by Mazda for their particular application. These parts are warranted for the first 12-months/12,000 miles from date of purchase, excluding labor.'

 

[Ferdball]

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about??

You. Joke. I guess its not funny.

 

[Thaibos2008]

Ms Cai

I talked to the parts service department and they said that the check engine light was coming on after using the MS CAI. They said that too much air flow was passing the oxygen sensor. So I guess it was an air flow problem.

 

[buttdart]

still waiting for the release.

 

[///M Compact]

I just wanna say that this hydrolock nonsense is just that. That wasn't the issue that the CAI got stopped in the first place, so let it rest.

+1

 

[MS3077]

I don't remember anybody saying that "Hydro lock" was the reasoning behind stopping the sale of the MS CAI. However, hydro lock can, has, and will happen to people with a CAI. All it takes is driving thru a pretty decent size pot hole filed with water and BOOM there goes your motor. To each his own.

*off topic - Anybody hear anything on when the cobb AP is going to be released??

 

[slo03.5msp]

BTW to anyone wondering, I am a service writer and as far as mazda NA is concerened if it doesn't have mazdaspeed on it you will have a very difficult time getting things fixed. Ms3077 it's cool that your service department doesn't care. However on any major warranty claim a Mazda NA rep has to come out to validate it and if they saw your cobb anything, you better get your checkbook out.

 

[Sacrilicious]

BTW to anyone wondering, I am a service writer and as far as mazda NA is concerened if it doesn't have mazdaspeed on it you will have a very difficult time getting things fixed. Ms3077 it's cool that your service department doesn't care. However on any major warranty claim a Mazda NA rep has to come out to validate it and if they saw your cobb anything, you better get your checkbook out.

this is really good to know, man...thanks for the added insight!

 

[///M Compact]

I don't remember anybody saying that "Hydro lock" was the reasoning behind stopping the sale of the MS CAI. However, hydro lock can, has, and will happen to people with a CAI. All it takes is driving thru a pretty decent size pot hole filed with water and BOOM there goes your motor. To each his own.

Since you are clearly an expert on intake warranty coverage and hydrolock, can you cite me to any MS3 owners on this board(or the other two, for that matter) who have trashed their motor by driving their CAI equipped car through a "decent sized pothole filled with water"?

 

[///M Compact]

BTW to anyone wondering, I am a service writer and as far as mazda NA is concerened if it doesn't have mazdaspeed on it you will have a very difficult time getting things fixed. Ms3077 it's cool that your service department doesn't care. However on any major warranty claim a Mazda NA rep has to come out to validate it and if they saw your cobb anything, you better get your checkbook out.

Yet another person on this thread who actually knows what he's talking about.
But I'm sure a few folks(who have trouble just spelling "Mazda") will tell you that you are dead wrong...

 

[MS3077]

Since you are clearly an expert on intake warranty coverage and hydrolock, can you cite me to any MS3 owners on this board(or the other two, for that matter) who have trashed their motor by driving their CAI equipped car through a "decent sized pothole filled with water"?

I never claimed to be a warranty / hydro lock expert. As far as people on the forum who have destroyed their motor via driving thru a large puddle of water, I don't keep track of that crap. If you don't believe me try it and see what happens, eventually you'll be forking over around 7k or whatever it cost for a 2.3L DISI motor.

Why dont you post a thread: Who has are knows someone with a CAI that destroyed a motor via hydro lock. I dont think youll be so happy with the results of that one buddy.

 

[MS3077]

BTW to anyone wondering, I am a service writer and as far as mazda NA is concerened if it doesn't have mazdaspeed on it you will have a very difficult time getting things fixed. Ms3077 it's cool that your service department doesn't care. However on any major warranty claim a Mazda NA rep has to come out to validate it and if they saw your cobb anything, you better get your checkbook out.

Only thing I'll be getting in that case are the keys to my rental car

I would have stock airbox back on in like 15min, not a problem. Anything else you got for me?

 

[MS3077]

Yet another person on this thread who actually knows what he's talking about.
But I'm sure a few folks(who have trouble just spelling "Mazda") will tell you that you are dead wrong...

They only "know what they're talking about" when you happen to agree with them.