Mazda Issues Stop Sale on MS3 CAI

[MS3077]

Why do I feel like I'm getting ambushed?

 

[Ferdball]

Why do I feel like I'm getting ambushed?

You're being a little hostile. Why don't you chill out a bit. We're all here for the same reason.

 

[///M Compact]

I never claimed to be a warranty / hydro lock expert. As far as people on the forum who have destroyed their motor via driving thru a large puddle of water, I don't keep track of that crap. If you don't believe me try it and see what happens, eventually you'll be forking over around 7k or whatever it cost for a 2.3L DISI motor.

Let's see... You don't claim to be an expert and you don't "keep track of that crap" yet you still tell everybody about it as if it were an undisputed fact.
Wow.
Thanks for clearing that up...

 

[///M Compact]

Why dont you post a thread: Who has are knows someone with a CAI that destroyed a motor via hydro lock. I dont think youll be so happy with the results of that one buddy.

Let me get this straight; you want me to prove YOUR assertion?
This is getting more surreal by the minute...

 

[MS3077]

Let me get this straight; you want me to prove YOUR assertion?
This is getting more surreal by the minute...

I've already made my point. I've stated facts, it's not my problem that you don't want to believe them. No more needs to be said as you are acting like a clown now. Have a good night!

 

[MS3077]

Let's see... You don't claim to be an expert and you don't "keep track of that crap" yet you still tell everybody about it as if it were an undisputed fact.
Wow.
Thanks for clearing that up...

I don't need to prove anything to you. I gave you advice; it is yours to do as you want with it. I'm sorry but if you think that a CAI is immune from hydro lock you are a fool sir. And yes driving thru deep puddles can cause this issue and this isn't something that I would feel comfortable with, if you are good luck!

 

[Betelgeuse]

BTW to anyone wondering, I am a service writer and as far as mazda NA is concerened if it doesn't have mazdaspeed on it you will have a very difficult time getting things fixed. Ms3077 it's cool that your service department doesn't care. However on any major warranty claim a Mazda NA rep has to come out to validate it and if they saw your cobb anything, you better get your checkbook out.

That's why I'll spend a whole 20-25 minutes and pull my cobb intake out and stick my stock airbox back in before going in for major warranty work.

Also just having a Mazdaspeed sticker isn't always enough. According to the warranty booklet, it has to be installed by an authorized dealer. If you have no proof of that, they can still deny coverage (or be difficult).

 

[MS3077]

That's why I'll spend a whole 20-25 minutes and pull my cobb intake out and stick my stock airbox back in before going in for major warranty work.

Also just having a Mazdaspeed sticker isn't always enough. According to the warranty booklet, it has to be installed by an authorized dealer. If you have no proof of that, they can still deny coverage (or be difficult).

+1

 

[orng1]

interesting.

 

[elieleb1303]

wow, everyone is so hostile lol
as far as the ms cai intake goes, it does NOT have to be installed by a dealer, nor do you need proof of it.

if u guys read the warranty, and someone already pointed this out, it is a green warranty item, which means as long as its approved by mazda (which the intake is), then its covered by warranty. it says nothing about having to be installed by a dealer. needing to be installed by the dealer is only for the other warranty levels, i forget the colors..

 

[MS3077]

wow, everyone is so hostile lol
as far as the ms cai intake goes, it does NOT have to be installed by a dealer, nor do you need proof of it.

if u guys read the warranty, and someone already pointed this out, it is a green warranty item, which means as long as its approved by mazda (which the intake is), then its covered by warranty. it says nothing about having to be installed by a dealer. needing to be installed by the dealer is only for the other warranty levels, i forget the colors..

-1 for bum scoop.

 

[mazpro]

wow, everyone is so hostile lol
as far as the ms cai intake goes, it does NOT have to be installed by a dealer, nor do you need proof of it.

if u guys read the warranty, and someone already pointed this out, it is a green warranty item, which means as long as its approved by mazda (which the intake is), then its covered by warranty. it says nothing about having to be installed by a dealer. needing to be installed by the dealer is only for the other warranty levels, i forget the colors..

awesome, that's what I wanted to hear. that means I can just buy it online and install it myself.

 

[Betelgeuse]

wow, everyone is so hostile lol
as far as the ms cai intake goes, it does NOT have to be installed by a dealer, nor do you need proof of it.

if u guys read the warranty, and someone already pointed this out, it is a green warranty item, which means as long as its approved by mazda (which the intake is), then its covered by warranty. it says nothing about having to be installed by a dealer. needing to be installed by the dealer is only for the other warranty levels, i forget the colors..

When I had mine installed about a year ago, I'm pretty sure it was a blue warranty item. Maybe they changed it or I was mistaken but hopefully someone with the CAI documentation can double check that. I sold mine a while ago.

In either case, coverage on parts and labor is only for the first 12k miles. After that it gets very vague as to what's covered. And I know hydro lock isn't covered AT ALL.

 

[///M Compact]

I don't need to prove anything to you. I gave you advice; it is yours to do as you want with it. I'm sorry but if you think that a CAI is immune from hydro lock you are a fool sir. And yes driving thru deep puddles can cause this issue and this isn't something that I would feel comfortable with, if you are good luck!

Well, thanks for all the "facts" and "advice". Your knowledge and experience with these issues is simply amazing. That said, I think I'm going to follow Dilbert's sage advice:

 

[tunersteve]

Blue Warranty MAZDASPEED "Blue" Performance Accessories must be installed by a MAZDASPEED Dealer on a US specification vehicle and be specifically approved by Mazda for the particular application. These parts are covered under the Mazda Replacement Parts and Accessories Limited Warranty and are warranted for the first 12 months/12,000 miles from the date of installation or the duration of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, whichever is longer. Should the parts be purchased but not installed by a MAZDASPEED Dealer, they will be covered for the first 12-months/12,000 miles from the date of purchase, excluding labor charges. Parts or accessories replaced/installed under warranty, are covered for the time remaining in the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Green Warranty MAZDASPEED "Green" Performance Accessories must be specifically approved by Mazda for their particular application. These parts are warranted for the first 12-months/12,000 miles from the date of purchase, excluding labor.

Orange Warranty MAZDASPEED "Orange" Performance Accessories are sold "as is" without any warranty of any kind. All implied warranties, including all warranties of merchantability of fitness for a particular purpose, are excluded. Purchaser acknowledges that no representations have been made regarding these parts, including but not limited to any representations as to their quality of performance, and purchaser shall be responsible for and bear all costs of repair of replacement due to any defect in or failure of these parts or any damage to other components. Purchaser acknowledges that vehicles equipped with MAZDASPEED "Orange" Performance Accessories shall not be operated on public highways. MAZDASPEED "Orange" Performance Accessories are intended solely for the use on vehicles participating in race/off-road competition events. Purchaser acknowledges that all Mazda vehicle/parts/accessory warranties are voided if the vehicle is used in a competitive event. Purchaser also acknowledges that there will be no warranty coverage for any part or accessory that fails as a result of the installation of a MAZDASPEED "Orange" performance part. Purchaser accepts all responsibility for all vehicle modifications and all potential risks. MAZDASPEED "Orange" Performance Accessories have been designed and are intended for race/offroad applications only. Federal and many state laws prohibit the removal, modification of, or rendering inoperative any part or vehicle system affecting emissions or safety.
What Is Not Covered

• Damage or corrosion due to accidents, misuse, or alterations.
• Damage or surface corrosion from the environment such as acid rain, airborne fallout (chemicals, tree sap), stones, salt road hazards, hail, wind storm, lightning, floods and other natural disaster.
• Normal wear, tear or deterioration such as discoloration, fading, deformation, blurring, etc.
• Replacement parts or accessories installed on any Mazda Vehicle registered or normally operated outside of the United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan or American Samoa.
• Replacement parts, or accessories installed on a Mazda Vehicle in which the odometer has been altered, or on which the actual mileage cannot be readily determined.
• Replacement parts or accessories used in applications for which they are not designed.
• Replacement parts or accessories installed improperly by dealers, Importer/Distributor other than Mazda.
• Any replacement part or accessory without proof of purchase or replacement date.
• Non-Mazda replacement parts or accessories which Mazda Dealers may sell or install on your Mazda Vehicle.
• If the vehicle has been classified a total loss and/or sold for salvage purposes or branded for any other reasons.
• Removal of the vehicle from the warranty covered market for which it was produced.

 

[eddelgado]

So after several pages of arguments and multiple sequential posts with no useful info we can assume that there has yet to be any official info from MAZDA about the CAI and why they have placed it on hold?

Ed

 

[elieleb1303]

So after several pages of arguments and multiple sequential posts with no useful info we can assume that there has yet to be any official info from MAZDA about the CAI and why they have placed it on hold?

Ed

correct. pretty much one guy arguing with everyone and +1-ing himself. but then again, if he can +1 himself, he must be pretty godly..

 

[MS3077]

Well, thanks for all the "facts" and "advice". Your knowledge and experience with these issues is simply amazing. That said, I think I'm going to follow Dilbert's sage advice:

Do you think I care to prove anything to you???

I've given you the facts if you don't want to believe them that is entirely up to you.

It's funny, you're so pathetic that you have to resort to "insulting" me.

 

[slo03.5msp]

As soon as any information in regard to the mazdaspeed cai is released I will be sure to update. Honestly do you guys really think we don't know when cars have been altered and returned to stock form? You really need to give us more credit. We are not that dumb!

 

[tunersteve]

Alright, this is starting to get a little out of hand. Clean it up or the mods are gonna lock it down. No reason for personal attacks (MS3077, M Compact)

This thread needs to get back to the facts: The CAI is still on hold, no one knows when they'll re-issue it, what the new changes are gonna be, and exactly why it was pulled in the first place. We've got info from some reliable sources, but nothing was officially published by Mazda.