Mazda Diesel Motor??

[fkmp5]

Mazda Diesel Motor !! wtf??

 

[TStar]

don't like that idea? diesel engines are easily tunable to a f*cking lot of hps and they're driving with cheap gas.

 

[z00mer]

Mazda Europe has a turbo diesel 323 Protege`. This is where the MSP got it`s generic IC.

 

[Stealth5]

w3rd to what z00mer said, that info's not exactly right because of the diesel in europe. i dunno about tuning a diesel to mad hp...they get TONS of torque tho, im not sure, but i think the jetta TDI has like 90hp but over 150lb/ft of torque..i think its because diesel doesnt use a spark, so it doesnt have explosive power, put the diesel explosions push harder and slower rather than weaker and faster

 

[TStar]

well, admitted: "f*cking lot" was exaggerated. diesels are mostly "chiptuned"..which only means that the motormanagement is changed electronically. an example would be the audi a3 1.9l tdi, which will can boosted from 90ps to 155 "just by a chip"... it's not really cheap though, depending on who is hired for those modifications (even audi itself offers a tuneup)...

 

[unwrittenLaw]

my '78 Benz 300 Diesel kicked ass...except that it took like 3 hours for the glow plugs to warm up...lol

 

[TStar]

well that time is over, this takes less than 1 second nowadays

 

[unwrittenLaw]

thats good...waiting sucks..

 

[Logan]

Diesel is cool.
No spark plus, and more than 20:1 compression!!
woooo!
The diesel/air mixture ignites because it's compressed so highly: controlled detonation.
Cool eh?

 

[mazdadan]

And what is even better than a diesel? A turbo diesel...talk about torque!

 

[Kooldino]

mazdadan - Well yeah, but turbo diesel is assumed...no one really runs a diesel w/o a turbo nowadays.

tailland - As others mentioned, you don't make tons of HP w/ diesel...you make tons of TQ. diesel engines can't rev worth a damn, but they can pull hard. That's why you see them in a lot of trucks, and that's why you don't see any fast diesel vehicles around. I think the tdi's run 19's or so stock in the 1/4 mile.

As far as your statement about them being "chip tuned", I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say, but all modern cars are chip tuned. I understand that the tdi can go from 90ps to 150+ with a plug and play chip, but the 1.8t (non diesel) engines respond similarly from a chip. Why? Because it's turboed and the power is retarded from the factory.

 

[mazdadan]

mazdadan - Well yeah, but turbo diesel is assumed...no one really runs a diesel w/o a turbo nowadays.

Yeah your right...my mind is still in the 80's and 90's....lol. It amazing how you can tune a modern diesel engine. The Ford Powerstroke 7.3L diesel can easily gain 80 HP and about 180lb ft torque with just ECU reprogramming. One of my friends has this truck and it moves.

 

[2Rusty]

(uhm) Mazda also put the Comprex Diesel in the 626 in Europe.

 

[TStar]

... trying to say, but all modern cars are chip tuned. I understand that the tdi can go from 90ps to 150+ with a plug and play chip, but the 1.8t (non diesel) engines respond similarly from a chip. Why? Because it's turboed and the power is retarded from the factory. [/B]

well, the audi 1.8turbo engine is really a phenomenon but when i look at chiptuning" for normal nondiesel motors, the results are poor.

 

[Street KingFD]

think its because diesel doesnt use a spark, so it doesnt have explosive power, put the diesel explosions push harder and slower rather than weaker and faster

It's because diesels have a comp. ratio of 17:1-23:1. With this, diesel engines can't spin a high RPM to save it's life. That's where you get the gob's of low end torque and little hp.

 

[Kooldino]

well, the audi 1.8turbo engine is really a phenomenon but when i look at chiptuning" for normal nondiesel motors, the results are poor.

For N/A motors, yeah...but chip tuning any TURBOd motor is nuts. You can have a Stock WRX knock 1 sec of the 1/4 mile time with JUST chip tuning. That's huge.

 

[Rotus]

I heard somewhere that the TDI VW motors can be tuned to 300 hp. That's just crazy.

I would have gotten the Jetta wagon instead of my P5 if they had offered the TDI in that car when I was ready to buy, but they didn't. I'm glad. I love my P5, but the extra MPG would be nice.

 

[Kenetix]

Another nice thing about diesels is that the tolerances are so high on the parts, basically you can just tighten s*** down and not worry about a torque wrench.

 

[TheMAN]

The RF-E and RF-ET engine used in the 626 is also in the European 323. It has a 21.7:1 compression ratio for the RF-E and 18.7:1 for the RF-ET. The RF-E makes 72ps @4500rpm/130Nm @3000rpm and 100ps/224Nm @1800-3000rpm for the RF-ET

Engine displacement is 1998cc with a bore & stroke of 86x86... 8 valve SOHC

engine is based off of the FE3 engine design but there are some differences.. a lot of parts are interchanable

(uhm) Mazda also put the Comprex Diesel in the 626 in Europe.

 

[bougha]

In Europe Mazda has had diesels almost forever. New Mazda6 2L TD has 120 hp and for example in VW's 1.9L TDI there's 150hp and it's still easy to get much over 200hp of them. Just like Golf GTI which has 1.8L turbo with 150hp, so there's not much difference using diesel and gas.