Loving my new 2 me Mazda

[22323]

Picked up the car (as a daily driver) with <10k miles a couple of months ago. A few nit picks but otherwise very impressive vehicle. I must really like it based on the continual money outflow since I got it (accessories, paint correction/protection, etc). I hate the stock Toyo's so just ordered the Conti DWS06+ in 235/55/19's for the stock wheels. Hoping they ride better than the A36's. Now if I can just get the steering wheel buttons to scroll through my sat radio favorites :-(

So after 25 miles of driving (!) on the new tires, definite improvements across the board - including ride comfort. The Toyo's were essentially new so I'm holding on to them for whatever reason...

 

[jadmt]

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So after 25 miles of driving (!) on the new tires, definite improvements across the board - including ride comfort. The Toyo's were essentially new so I'm holding on to them for whatever reason...

how about some good photos of the tires from different angles...

 

[Lazy2.5]

So after 25 miles of driving (!) on the new tires, definite improvements across the board - including ride comfort. The Toyo's were essentially new so I'm holding on to them for whatever reason...

Great, why not sell them?

 

[N7turbo]

I sold mine with 3500 miles for $1200. With the wheels, of course.

 

[Lazy2.5]

I sold mine with 3500 miles for $1200. With the wheels, of course.

That's a good price. (For you)

You've probably done research on these performance all seasons, which ones are the best in your opinion? The DWS ones you and OP have? Thoughts on the PSAS4 in contrast to competition?

I patiently checked marketplace pretty much everyday for over a month before scoring on mine. Next time I need tires, if I don't find what I'm looking for used (good tread, recent DOT) then I would step down from the top tier brands (Cooper, Hankook, etc.) and save some money.

 

[22323]

4 stock Toyo A36 tires - one brand new, 3 with ~12k miles. Southwestern CT. Anyone interested, lmk. :-O

 

[jadmt]

I sold mine with 3500 miles for $1200. With the wheels, of course.

I keep looking for a deal like that. I like the OEM wheels even tho they weigh a little more. I am not autocrossing so OEM wheels are fine for me. i wouldn't mind having a second set with some pure summer treads on them. I really like my CC2's but going to try and do a coast to coast road trip this year and would just soon save the wear and tear on the CC2's.

 

[N7turbo]

You've probably done research on these performance all seasons, which ones are the best in your opinion? The DWS ones you and OP have? Thoughts on the PSAS4 in contrast to competition?

They are very close but there are some differences. Aside from Tire Rack and other forums, my two most informative pieces of research came from these two sources:

Anecdotally, I'm not noticing much difference in the snow between the DWS06+ and the Toyo A36. But in the dry and wet, the difference is dramatic.

Subjectively, I think the DWS06+ looks the best. The side profile is really sporty looking.

 

[Lazy2.5]

They are very close but there are some differences. Aside from Tire Rack and other forums, my two most informative pieces of research came from these two sources:

Anecdotally, I'm not noticing much difference in the snow between the DWS06+ and the Toyo A36. But in the dry and wet, the difference is dramatic.

Subjectively, I think the DWS06+ looks the best. The side profile is really sporty looking.

I like that they are rated for mild snow and cold temps. We're still occasionally in the negatives (Celsius) here in Ontario and even got some snow yesterday. The improved tread wear over dedicated summer tires is good to.

As always, I've already pushed these tires to their limits round a couple bends.. er. The limits of the stock suspension geometry and alignment. Chassis feels stiff and eager to take more. The OEM suspension geometry and alignment says "no more".

I have new quick struts up front, and they feel pretty firm for a sedan. With some additional negative camber and thicker sway bars to help keep the tire more flat during hard cornering, this chassis (and the tires) have more to give.

Frankly, I don't see the point of putting high performance tires like this onto my stock suspension Mazda 6. Especially not a CX-5.

 

[N7turbo]

Frankly, I don't see the point of putting high performance tires like this onto my stock suspension Mazda 6. Especially not a CX-5.

The suspension doesn't have much to do with the decision. It all depends what you want from your tires.

 

[jadmt]

The suspension doesn't have much to do with the decision. It all depends what you want from your tires.

amen. even stock crap suspension vehicles can benefit from great tires. I am lucky I live in an area where I can hit the twisties at 100+ speeds and tires are important. this is out my back door

 

[22323]

I like that they are rated for mild snow and cold temps. We're still occasionally in the negatives (Celsius) here in Ontario and even got some snow yesterday. The improved tread wear over dedicated summer tires is good to.

As always, I've already pushed these tires to their limits round a couple bends.. er. The limits of the stock suspension geometry and alignment. Chassis feels stiff and eager to take more. The OEM suspension geometry and alignment says "no more".

I have new quick struts up front, and they feel pretty firm for a sedan. With some additional negative camber and thicker sway bars to help keep the tire more flat during hard cornering, this chassis (and the tires) have more to give.

Frankly, I don't see the point of putting high performance tires like this onto my stock suspension Mazda 6. Especially not a CX-5.

My first impressions when I got the car was how capable it felt and it being let down by the tires. I'm not driving this at the limits but the Toyo's were the weakest link in the performance cocktail. IMHO. Another 25 miles and still happy.

 

[Lazy2.5]

The suspension doesn't have much to do with the decision. It all depends what you want from your tires.

The suspension setup of course will be heavily involved.

Again, this is just my opinion, based on my car and driving style, both of which are different from you guys.

But, I'm here, and generally enjoy these discussions, so of course I do my best to be considerate and helpful.

I'm sure that performance tires are a good choice for someone who enjoys the handling and steering feel of their Mazda. You don't need to push your car to it's limits to enjoy high performance tires. I was simply stating that the stock suspension will be a bottleneck for outright grip, and that any good quality tires are more than enough for these cars, even if not marketed as "performance."

Does that mean I would switch back to touring/economy tires next time around?

Probably not. But. What tires I put on my car is determined but the deal I find.

 

[Lazy2.5]

My first impressions when I got the car was how capable it felt and it being let down by the tires. I'm not driving this at the limits but the Toyo's were the weakest link in the performance cocktail. IMHO. Another 25 miles and still happy.

Great! I had a CX-5 turbo loaner to mess around with for 1-2 days last summer.

I can't report anything good or bad about them. The grip and sidewall feel while cornering aggressively was. Fine. They rode, fine. Sidewall was maybe a touch floppy, but I didn't bother to check what the tire pressures were at. I liked the way that the rear axle broke away into oversteer when cornering at WOT from a dig. I have heard lots of complaints about these Toyo's on this forum. From my perspective, the problem with them is the overall weight and massive diameter of a 225/55R19 tire. I actually liked the additional compliance that the CX-5 had on bad roads compared to my Mazda 6, but the 19's were just ruining whatever advantage it had.