Israeli Legislators to Washington: If You Don't Stop Iran, We Will

[Donas64]

What then about the leader of Iran who has openly said that he would like to wipe Israel of the Face of the map or that he sends letters to Germany in which he says they should team up against the Zionists. I mean the man denies that the holocaust occurs. And you know for a fact that Iran is backing Hezballah (sp?) are those who believe that this man and those like him are a threat idiots also?

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=12896306&src=rss/worldNews

 

[mspdfreak]

Cook up the popcorn and let them kill themselves. Works for me.

 

[Matrix]

What then about the leader of Iran who has openly said that he would like to wipe Israel of the Face of the map or that he sends letters to Germany in which he says they should team up against the Zionists. I mean the man denies that the holocaust occurs. And you know for a fact that Iran is backing Hezballah (sp?) are those who believe that this man and those like him are a threat idiots also?

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=12896306&src=rss/worldNews

Good points.

My thoughts are:

What would bring peace to the Middle East (once and for all) would be a peace treaty in which Israel agrees to return to its pre-1967 borders, give up all occupied territories, and recognize a sovereign Palestinian state. In exchange the countries of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iraq must contribute the man-power and fiscal resources necessary to patrol the borders and control/dismantle Hezbollah no matter what it takes, with U.N. oversight of the entire operation. Part of the agreement would be the recognition of Israel by these signing Arab states (although Egypt already recognizes Israel).

There would be some squabbling over restitution to the Palestinians and Lebanon due to destroyed infrastructure and war crimes, and Israel will end up having to pay a respectable yet realistic sum to see the deal through with a disclaimer stating that although they're paying this money, they do not admit liability.

 

[Matrix]

Cook up the popcorn and let them kill themselves. Works for me.

Sure. Then when you're paying $24/gallon for gas for your Mustang GT, you'll wonder what the hell happened. (ughdance)

 

[Donas64]

Good points.

My thoughts are:

What would bring peace to the Middle East (once and for all) would be a peace treaty in which Israel agrees to return to its pre-1967 borders, give up all occupied territories, and recognize a sovereign Palestinian state. In exchange the countries of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iraq must contribute the man-power and fiscal resources necessary to patrol the borders and control/dismantle Hezbollah no matter what it takes, with U.N. oversight of the entire operation. Part of the agreement would be the recognition of Israel by these signing Arab states (although Egypt already recognizes Israel).

There would be some squabbling over restitution to the Palestinians and Lebanon due to destroyed infrastructure and war crimes, and Israel will end up having to pay a respectable yet realistic sum to see the deal through with a disclaimer stating that although they're paying this money, they do not admit liability.

although I don't really know that much about the past land issues, that sounds like a common sense way to go about it. Maybe a few tweaks here and there. I'm not entirely sure about the restitiution bit. but what if all this occured and Hezbollah was still intent on attacking Isreal, would they be justified then in retaliating with full force?

It is a complicated situation indeed!

 

[Bu11dogg2]

Good points.

My thoughts are:

What would bring peace to the Middle East (once and for all) would be a peace treaty in which Israel agrees to return to its pre-1967 borders, give up all occupied territories, and recognize a sovereign Palestinian state. In exchange the countries of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iraq must contribute the man-power and fiscal resources necessary to patrol the borders and control/dismantle Hezbollah no matter what it takes, with U.N. oversight of the entire operation. Part of the agreement would be the recognition of Israel by these signing Arab states (although Egypt already recognizes Israel).

There would be some squabbling over restitution to the Palestinians and Lebanon due to destroyed infrastructure and war crimes, and Israel will end up having to pay a respectable yet realistic sum to see the deal through with a disclaimer stating that although they're paying this money, they do not admit liability.

no offense bud.... but that would be like me asking you to convert religions.

Its a battle of holy lands, neither side will give in to the other.(enguard)

 

[mspdfreak]

Sure. Then when you're paying $24/gallon for gas for your Mustang GT, you'll wonder what the hell happened. (ughdance)

Not a chance. We can pump oil in radioactive areas without humans.

Let the games begin!

 

[Donas64]

Not a chance. We can pump oil in radioactive areas without humans.

Let the games begin!

Solar powered Stang GT FTW!!!!!

 

[Donas64]

no offense bud.... but that would be like me asking you to convert religions.

Its a battle of holy lands, neither side will give in to the other.(enguard)

Ain't that the truth

 

[Bu11dogg2]

I made the point in another thread, as long as we let religion guide our policy making we will never become a peacefull world.

More people have died in so called "holy" wars than all natural disasters, diseases or crime.

 

[Shane5425]

I made the point in another thread, as long as we let religion guide our policy making we will never become a peacefull world.

More people have died in so called "holy" wars than all natural disasters, diseases or crime.

i truely agree...

 

[Donas64]

Someones faith is Intrinsically linked to who they are. It guides their actions and it's a compass by which they live their lives.

People without faith are no less likely to kill or war than people with faith. War is a part of life. It's not the best part, but it's a part none the less.

To say that a world without religion or faith would be a peaceful world is a statement so fully of fallacy, I don't even know where to begin disputing it.

People will fight. They will find something to fight over. Personally, my faith has kept me out of many a fight and had left me no option but to engage in other conflicts.

But I'll tell you something, either way, I'm glad I have it.

How many people hitler, stalin and those of their ilk kill? And for what reason.
In hitlers case, he believed in a master race. Was that motivated by religion?
What religion was he a part of?

People with conviction and yes a lot of people with faith in a cause, stopping that madman, because they believed it was the right thing to do. Should we have just layed down and sang kum-ba-ya as he laid waste to a people,

what about pearl harbour, what wa sthe motivation behind that? Religious? Don't think so.

There is a time for war and eventually peace will come.

Heck if the "peace process" and "cease fires" work, the middle east should be the most peaceful place on earth, instead it's a hotbed of violence, why? Because the terrorists rise up, radicals gain ground, and the forces that would oppose them have their hand tied behind their backs by political correctness.

sometimes action must be taken. And I salute and honor those brave enough to take such action.

 

[Bu11dogg2]

Im not saying we shouild live without religion, in fact the nation that we all love is built on religion.

But, in some aspects it is time to change. We need stem cell research, we dont need holy wars.

Our government is more concerned with terrorists than they are disease control and medical advances.

 

[Donas64]

Im not saying we shouild live without religion, in fact the nation that we all love is built on religion.

But, in some aspects it is time to change. We need stem cell research, we dont need holy wars.

Our government is more concerned with terrorists than they are disease control and medical advances.

Stem cell research is still going on. It's not cancelled. We're just not using govt/taxpayer money to fund embryonic stem cell research.

 

[madmax_2069]

no matter what religion you belong to all of this is BS and its bringing everyone alll down with it. if you cant tell its getting worse everyday. it wont take much more before it all goes up over there and when it does we are all going to feel it

some war's cant be avoided, some can and some is BS

I fully support out Troop's

i dont like to hate any one, but all of this BS is making people hate more and that is not a good thing

the so called holy war is a crock of poop that is twisted to there will, war is war and some of it is unjust, some of it is. i think we seen this all coming


and yea i beleave in GOD and no i dont go to church

 

[TStar]

Because the terrorists rise up, radicals gain ground, and the forces that would oppose them have their hand tied behind their backs by political correctness.

man, have you ever made up your mind on what "terrorism" actually is ? terrorism doesn't come out of nowhere, look at the many areas on earth, where terrorism exists and you'll quickly see, that there are some interesting similarities in the political background in 100% of all the cases...

sometimes action must be taken. And I salute and honor those brave enough to take such action.

see, this IS ACTUALLY said about the people YOU call terrorists, too, just by the people who support them...
you call them terrorist,others call them freedom fighters... it just depends on which side you're on and NO, there's not "the right side", this only exists in your mind.

People will fight. They will find something to fight over

yep,true, and unfortunately it's pretty easy to find something which is serious enough to fight about it... but please: take a look what's ALWAYS responsible for the disposition of ANY war in the world that has ever begun... : politics and its actions.

i truly believe most people don't look in the right direction when they're looking for the ones who are responsible for simply all the s*** that is going on on planet earth. they can be distracted too easily by mass media.

unfortunately politicians don't fight in wars, they're much too scared of the consequences of their own wrongful doings.

 

[madmax_2069]

unfortunately politicians don't fight in wars, they're much too scared of the consequences of their own wrongful doings.

yea they do it any way and send the troop's in to do there bidding even tho if they are wrong or right at the troop's expense.

 

[SilverBulletES]

Wow... such original lines of reasoning and moral equivalence. I am enlightened as s***. I am now levitating off my couch in a meditative pose like the Buddha. Peace be upon him.

 

[Killer]

allah akbar!

 

[madmax_2069]

lol did some one open a can of WTF in here