Is tuning needed??

i wont even get into the CP-E thing. lets just say i dont agree with their way of doing things, or the way they treat people, even those who TEACH them things.


is there a problem with the quality? they seem to be very inexpensive compared to others.
 
max timing on my car seems to 14 and it usually stays at 12 up top.
No1 knows how safe we can go. Timing can make big changes on turbo cars. There is a ms6 member on here that did nothing but timing and blew up. Dada showed a couple hp, im talking like 2-3 when he upped his timing slightly. The risk of detonating is not worth the 2-3hp to me, nor is paying 600 plus bucks to be able to do it


That's interesting. I still say wait for Cobb to release there tuning software to see what can really be done with this car.....
 
the question isn't advancing timing, its being able to retard timing with a bigger turbo...

if the ms3 ECU can retard it enough to run about 20psi on a 3071r or comparible turbo, then you can bet your balls i'll upgrade. unfortunately, there is no COMPLETE bolt on solution for the ms3 yet. ATP is coming, and there are other companies in the works...
 
if u want a cat on that cpe downpipe its going to run over 700 bucks, thats highway robbery for 4 feet of bent pipe with a cat in it.
 
Last edited:
protegegarage.com and S t r e e t U n i t.com

PG = the best service and best prices anywhere. guaranteed.

+1 on that, though they have both been very good to me, Ken @ PG really goes out of his way. Sorry for being off topic, just had to point that out.
 
is there a problem with the quality? they seem to be very inexpensive compared to others.

its all politics.... just like how stre*t unit is block with these *****

someone got hurt a while back and the grudge stands today, just get what you like and what makes you happy
 
if u want a cat on that cpe downpipe its going to run over 700 bucks, thats ****** highway robbery for 4 feet of bent pipe with a cat in it.

Got mine for $685; I'm very happy with it. Top notch quality...
It's the only one with a cat in it unfortunately... I really wanted the Cork Sport (wanted the divorsed gases design), but no cat... :(

CP-E wins this round... (lol2)

I'm also purchasing a CBE in a couple of weeks and really like CP-Es design; but not willing to spend $685 when I can get one for $450.(protest)

Cork Sport wins round 2... (lol2)
 
did ure cpe catted pipe throw a cel? doing that install twice for no reason SUCKS, but whatever.

my modo: bank account>vendors(upbum)
 
protegegarage.com and S t r e e t U n i t.com

PG = the best service and best prices anywhere. guaranteed.

orly-owl.jpeg


I guess PG hasnt updated their prices yet then...http://www.mazda3performanceparts.com

what do i get for proving your guarantee wrong?
 
just to be the devils advocate isnt the map clamp a tunning device? granted it is a cheep pigybback device. but for the listed mods no you dont need any tunning yet. hey wait you could also say that a MBC is a form of tunning.
 
if you find something cheaper somewhere else, give pg a call and they'll match or beat the price. Same goes for stre-t unit, and thats where the "guarantee" part comes into play. Think before you post, seriously

thanks. i just saw his reply.

ksadf;lkasdf;alksjdf;alksdfj;asdlfk;asldf (screwy)
 
orly-owl.jpeg


I guess PG hasnt updated their prices yet then...http://www.mazda3performanceparts.com

what do i get for proving your guarantee wrong?

fujita intakes and BC coilovers are a few items among many we beat thier prices on. BC coilovers we beat them by almost $250. and it says smack on the front page we match or beat anybody, even if that means i take a hit on the purchase. the only place i won't price match is ebay for obvious reasons.
 
Back