is the Double exhaust worth it?

[Zakknafein]

I just just a got a Mazda protege 3 months ago, so i'm new on this site. I'm planning on moding my car but I don't know how mazda cars are. Someone told me that putting a double exhaust would realy increase my speed and performance. Is it worth it? if not what should I do. I'm tierd of getting burned by these f****** civic!!

 

[Black_Protege_5]

ahahahahaha. That is funny. Who ever told you that, I want you to ignore them from now on. If you want a fast car don't get a protege unless you have money. NA mods will not yeild you a lot of power without spending a lot of money. Just go turbo with low psi and you will be good. But don't expect much.

 

[nate0123]

first of all, what is a Mazda protege 3?

secondly, do you realize you posted in the Mazdaspeed Protege section?

third, who the hell have you been talking to?

 

[smo0f]

he got a mazda protege, 3 months ago.

 

[nate0123]

oh ok, that just leaves two questions then

 

[Zakknafein]

So what are you saying? I should forget the double exhaust and plan on puting a turbo?

 

[Black_Protege_5]

lol. Hmm someone can't read. And he did say he is new.

 

[Zakknafein]

I don't need a bomb for a car, I just want better then a 130HP car. I'm trying to take my car and bring it to the MazdaSpeed. You think it's possible without spending a fortune?

 

[B1GHAM]

I just just a got a Mazda protege 3 months ago, so i'm new on this site. I'm planning on moding my car but I don't know how mazda cars are. Someone told me that putting a double exhaust would realy increase my speed and performance. Is it worth it? if not what should I do. I'm tierd of getting burned by these f****** civic!!

dual exhaust is pointless on this vehicle (or any inline 4 for that matter...)

whoever told you that it would increase speed and performance obviously does not know cars and you should never listen to their advice...

secondly black protege is right. FSDE engines (the 2.0 4 cyl. in the proteges) dont take well to N/A modifications unless you have unlimited funds and resources...

best way to produce noticable gains in the FS-DE is through forced induction (IE turbo applications).

thirdly, even though nate was a little harsh ... this section is for Mazdaspeed Proteges and not 3rd generation proteges... there is a separate section for 3rd gen models and offer separate forums for engine modifications...

 

[Zakknafein]

...You guys are hard on me hey!

 

[B1GHAM]

I don't need a bomb for a car...QUOTE]


confused by that... if youre saying adding a turbo = bomb... then you dont want to change it to a mazdaspeed. mazdaspeed proteges came from the factory turbocharged which is why alot of proteges and protege5s switch over to the turbo setups from MSPs...

 

[Black_Protege_5]

Not really that. Just a double exhaust is pointless. It's only and I4. You won't get anything out of it but a ricey look.

Stock the car only puts 98-100 whp. With I/H/E the car will only yeild maybe 110 whp. You will have to go custom cams, High compression pistons, ported everything, EMS, and a lot of other stuff that will cost way over 8 grand that a $3000 custom turbo kit can do. It's pointless to go NA unless you have time and money.

 

[Zakknafein]

SO you guys are saying I shouldn't even bother trying to mod my car and just get another one?

 

[B1GHAM]

it depends ENTIRELY on what you are looking for...

if you jsut want to beat civics, they only right 127 hp stock (ex models)

so it IS possible with I/H/E and EMS, but you will probably still want more.

doing a turbo setup will give you more power with the possibility (money a factor here) of running a 13-14 sec. car with the right work...

 

[Black_Protege_5]

If you want speed yes. The protege is a great handling car and with the right mods you can do very well on the track. Just on straight don't expect much. I love my P5 but it is just too slow for me.

 

[B1GHAM]

. You will have to go custom cams, High compression pistons, ported everything, EMS, and a lot of other stuff that will cost way over 8 grand that a $3000 custom turbo kit can do. It's pointless to go NA unless you have time and money.

I was going to get into that but didnt feel like typing it... glad we think the same though

 

[B1GHAM]

If you want speed yes. The protege is a great handling car and with the right mods you can do very well on the track. Just on straight don't expect much. I love my P5 but it is just too slow for me.

agreed.... proteges are good auto-x/roadcouse/track cars... they are NOT drag cars... never were, never will be...

straight line racing isnt everything. Id rather have a balanced car - good performance/great handling/good looks more than a straight up drag car.

 

[Zakknafein]

ok, so since i just bouth this car, I'm not planning on selling it soon. So if i would want to bring it up or close to a mazdaspeed, I should get a turbo kit. f*** the exhaust right?

 

[Black_Protege_5]

lol. I just got into it so he can understand what he is getting into and that is not even half the work.

But if you want a super fast NA Pro talk to twilight. He has done so much work he can tell you.

 

[Black_Protege_5]

Well msp's come with a garret T25 dual BB turbo. At 6 psi it will put you at around 146whp + or -. With some tuning and full exhaust you could get up to around 160 whp average. Then you can just go from there. But don't get crazy or it will zoom zoom boom!!!!

But there are many threads on here to explain why we have bad rods and pistons.