is the Double exhaust worth it?

[Mustard97]

it depends who you talk to

 

[B1GHAM]

it depends who you talk to

yeah but its more akin to playing russian roulette...

most dealership techs work on cars for their JOB they have no interest in tuning/modifying vehicles. The chances that you DO find one are fully dependant on where you look, but like I said, shot in hell @ best.

do the research on your own... learn from this site, find good books on teh subject, find good internet how-to sites, etc. etc.

if you are interested in modifying your car, then you should find all the info interesting and fun to read so it shouldnt be hard...

 

[tehturbo]

I don't know who said modifying a pretege is twice as expensive, but I had an E36 BMW and I traded it for this car so I could afford to tune it. The Bimmer averaged $4k/year in maintenance, the MSP is...$900 w00t! The bimmer was way faster, but I could pass the bimmer w/ maybe $1k in mods on the MSP. Back t the main topic, turbo is the way to go. Best perfomance gains per dollar. But you have to remember to make sure your brakes and suspension can keep up with your speedy car. I was taught to always modify a car from the bottom up, starting with maintainance > brakes > suspension > then motor. I hope that's a helpful guideline to go by. GL man.

 

[Black_Protege_5]

Yes but the Protege is also not in the same class as the BMW. We are in the class of civics, celicas and other import 4 bangers.

 

[B1GHAM]

I don't know who said modifying a pretege is twice as expensive, but I had an E36 BMW and I traded it for this car so I could afford to tune it. The Bimmer averaged $4k/year in maintenance, the MSP is...$900 w00t!

we are speaking in general. the FS-DE isnt as mod friendly as some other import motors out on the market. Ofcourse a BMW is more expensive to tune, most german cars are

 

[jeffmsp]

might wanna start off your modding with buying "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell. Should be the best $25 you ever spend, it will help you alot.

Do not go to the dealer unless you figure out where blkzoomzoom works and get him to do your setup lol a mazdaspeed turbo setup is not tpo hard you can even just bring it to a local performance shop to do the install if you dont like tearing apart cars. DO NOT BOTHER WITH A MSP ECU. Get a dsmconvert afc and a set of wrx 440 injectors if you run out of fuel later down the line once everything is running and tuned.

 

[Kansei]

buy a stock mazdaspeed turbo setup for less then $1000 cdn then buy a dsm air fuel controller and beat any stock civic.

hahahahahah @ turboing the car for less than 1000 canadian. that's friggin hilarious! Have you bought the mazdaspeed protege turbo setup for your car? I got my turbo for 225 and my manifold for 75 (in USD) but I spent nearly 4k dollars to finish up the turbo kit.. and I didn't need ANY exhaust pieces, already had all that done.

 

[cmahlig]

i was gonna suggest that book haha. dude i came into this site not knowing much at all. just read and then read some more. you will find everything you will ever need here. you could also do the hiboost bigboost kit but remember, the rods in the fsde are very very very weak.

 

[crashkelly]

ok, so since i just bouth this car, I'm not planning on selling it soon. So if i would want to bring it up or close to a mazdaspeed, I should get a turbo kit. f*** the exhaust right?

Dude if you want to get anything out of that car you are going to be spending thousands of dollars...u should seriously sell it and get a car with a turbo system in place stock. Its much easier to build a lot of power into a car that already has a turbo.

You can get a turbo kit for you car but you are going to be spending like 3000 on the kit and the work needed to put it in(no offense but you dont sound like the u know enough about cars yet to take on such a project).

Plus you still will be in the same class as the newer civics even with a turbo kit on that car...keep it as a daily driver and save up for a turbo project car.