Is 08 the end of the MS3

Our MS3 and all Mazdaspeeds are balanced; handling, power, smoothness, ergonomics, and feel of the vehicle and road...you don't get that in any other car... If you drive other car brands, you'll notice you are disconnected from the vehicle and the road.

For the price range, yes.

And why do I want the Speed3 to go mainstream? Because it will only benefit us. Look how hard it is to get a single damned plug and play to the market. The Evo X hasn't even touched sales lots yet, and HKS has already gotten their hands on one and tuned it up. Same with MINE'S and the new Skyline. Really. The Mazda sports cars, including the Mazdaspeed cars, are niche cars, plain and simple. The major aftermarket parts companies should be fighting tooth and nail over our money. We have what, an exhaust from HKS, and thats it? Lame.
 
The end.

It is what happens after a good life lived well.

It, is not to be feared.

It, may be in fact for us (speed3 enthusiasts), the best part of being owners.

Embrace the fact. You are part of a small group of very fortunate automobile enthusiasts. Me too. Few will ever know what we know.

Cool?


07 cb gt, sirrius, no sat, injen cai, no way that thing is that fast........(burnout)
 
Even those old cars have zero worth. All it would take is the general design blueprints and schematics and you can reproduce one today. The vehicle itself has not appriciated at all. A classic car is worth no more today than it was back then. You aren't paying for the car, your paying for the emotional appeal and desire you have for it. Unless your telling me that the price of basic building materials of cars has sky rocketed since then.

I think you just contradicted yourself. I wasn't arguing the techincal aspects of the vehicles in terms of their true value. I simply pointed out that they are worth a lot of money if they can meet certain criteria. So...however you want to slice it, people still pay a lot of money for vintage / classic cars. If everyone had your attitude, no one would do it. Everyone would just buy kits and make their own. I think you missed the point, and empirically, you are wrong... just do a little searching and you will see what cars like the ones I have described go for.
 
If you want to make money on the sale of a vehicle 10, 15, or 20 years after it went off the market, you need to tug at the heart strings of the buyer with your car. I don't think this vehicle is going to have the sort of following 70's muscle or 80's exotic cars had. Our best bet is going to be selling the car to next-gen ricers 8 or 9 years from now for about 8 or 10G. Vintage and classic cars don't just magically happen, and not every car ever gets the sort of following required. Our car is a GREAT VEHICLE but it lacks the character and soul you'd normally attribute with desirable classic vehicles, and it's just another hot hatch.

It doesn't have the history of the GTI, it doesn't have the decades of car enthusiast accolades like the Miata, it doesn't have interesting stories about homologization or racing exposure like 70's muscle, it's not as market altering as early JDM power that made it over to North America (FDs, Skylines, etc), it's not a technical marvel like the Evo, it doesn't have rally heritage like the STI, it's not 40 years of pride and development on an ass engined car like a Porsche... I could go on and on with this list.

Anyone expecting this car to sell well in 10 years based on some sort of exclusiveness is deluding themselves. Mazda 323 GTX. Anyone know anything about this car? Limited run in North America for rally homologization purposes in the late 80's. 150+ HP out of a turboed 1.8, 50/50 power split AWD. Great car when it came out. Limited run, similar in number to the Speed3. It now has a small cult following and a small aftermarket. We have a very good car that fits a small niche. It's going to be very similar to the GTX.
 
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personaly i think there should be an 09 beacuse there are 08.5 that they are going to make soo to my that implies that there will be more and look at how many they are bringing to the states as oposed to 07 when only 5,000 came to north america. yes i know its one big run on sentance and spelling is atroucious but im running out of break time.
 
If you want to make money on the sale of a vehicle 10, 15, or 20 years after it went off the market, you need to tug at the heart strings of the buyer with your car. I don't think this vehicle is going to have the sort of cult following 70's muscle or 80's exotic cars had. Our best bet is going to be selling the car to next-gen ricers 8 or 9 years from now for about 8 or 10G. Vintage and classic cars don't just magically happen, and not every car ever gets the sort of following required. Our car is a GREAT VEHICLE but it lacks the character and soul you'd normally attribute with cult vehicles, and it's just another hot hatch.

It doesn't have the history of the GTI, it doesn't have the decades of car enthusiast accolades like the Miata, it doesn't have interesting stories about homologization or racing exposure like 70's muscle, it's not as market altering as early JDM power that made it over to North America (FDs, Skylines, etc), it's not a technical marvel like the Evo, it doesn't have rally heritage like the STI, it's not 40 years of pride and development on an ass engined car like a Porsche... I could go on and on with this list.

Anyone expecting this car to sell well in 10 years based on some sort of exclusiveness is deluding themselves. Mazda 323 GTX. Anyone know anything about this car? Limited run in North America for rally homologization purposes in the late 80's. 150+ HP out of a turboed 1.8, 50/50 power split AWD. Great car when it came out. Limited run, similar in number to the Speed3. It now has a small cult following and a small aftermarket. We have a very good car that fits a small niche. It's not going to be very similar to the GTX.

I couldn't agree more. This is essentially part of the point I was trying to make.
 
All I can say is that one thing ending almost always means something better is coming.
 
how is that not likely? the fewer that are produced the more any of an individual product will be worth.

No. The basic economic ideas based on agricultural commodities and raw materials your 11 grade economics/gym/Latin teacher taught you do not apply to the collectible car market.
 
personaly i think there should be an 09 beacuse there are 08.5 that they are going to make soo to my that implies that there will be more and look at how many they are bringing to the states as oposed to 07 when only 5,000 came to north america. yes i know its one big run on sentance and spelling is atroucious but im running out of break time.

What makes you think there are more than 5000 MS3 2008s?
 
they should stop making the ms3 so this way, this car would be rare. so far, i've only seen one ms3 outside jersey gardens, (red one)....around my area, noone even knows what this car is, and thats what makes it special...:)
 
ive only seen three MS3s on the road since owning one for 6 months and two MS6's. Generally in socal, you see everything, all the time. Rare indeed.
 
That would be hilarious. I have a Tribute ('08) and it would be crazy if it were fast. Deadly too, since the chassis is old-school Ford, and the brakes aren't all-that.
 
i see ms6s all the time around here in detroit but i've seen 2 other ms3s thats it. so if they stop making the 3 it wont brake my heart my car will at least keep its value a little longer.
 
in my neck of the woods, only one in my parish, closest one to me is New Orleans, and thats an hour away from me..... so... not to many people around here know what a ms3 is, especially the srt4s........ the look is priceless when i walk them or stay even... lol
 

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