Intake Manifold Modifications.....

Heres the final product. I threw in a couple comparisons in there, you can see how much I took out to gasket match it.
 

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Also alittle update. Check engine light is now off, Fixed that wednesday morning. Idle is now normal. Performance is quite noticable, however had unexpected complications.....

Since the thing felt so strong on the street I decided the first couple of runs at street psi (8psi. spike 9). Results were damn impressive (13.65, 13.60 both at 103mph.) I then decided to bump it to the normal spot on the boost controller (usually around 13psi, spike 15), however that only netted 10psi spike 11...results 13.44 @ 104.8. It then rained, cooled off, they dried the track, it rained again, they dried it again.....(read: no traction compound applied). I was afraid to turn the boost controller up more because I thought something was wrong or hooked up wrong so I left it there. Next two runs were 2.45, then 2.55 60's. It then pulled to a 13.56 and a 13.61....all with 10psi.

I realized this morning a likely reason for the loss of boost was due to the loss of restriction in the intake manifold. If I simply cranked the boost controller somemore it would have run it's best run no doubt. But alas I'm not running the MSP anymore this year.....oh well.
 
hmm, i wouldn't think there would be a "loss" of boost from less restrictions in the mani...more if anything. dunno, i guess we will see what happens with mine once its back together, probably the end of the weekend, gona start on it tonight when i get home from work =)
 
I'm basing this off a little story a guy at work with a supercharged mustang. He had a pulley on his mustang that gave him 9psi. He put higher flowing heads on (thats it). And the boost dropped to 6psi (with the same pulleys). So the way I took it less restriction meant less boost built up.?.?
 
hmmm, just doesn't sound right, less restriction in the intake mani to me would mean more air coming in = more boost?
 
if you think of it as boost being a measurment of restriction of air going into the engine (if the engine could flow more than the turbo put out, there wouldn't be any boost), then it makes more sense. I'm really not sure, but I like this theory other than ones that my mind has come up with.
 
yea, well we will see what happens when mine is done, although ive not once had a problem with my boost spiking or dropping off(besides the time i blew the hg at the track)...so if it doesn't hit 9, we will know what the problem is(the porting), im going to be porting out probably as much as you did, maybe a little less. Also the TB thanks for that pic, gives me idea how much you ported it out...im about 1/2 way done with that, all the metal got stuck on my face from the TB was a pain to get off lol.
 
man I need a beater. You guys are an insiration to me. Just don't have the time or space or tools. I'll crawl back in my hole now...LOL
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
I'm basing this off a little story a guy at work with a supercharged mustang. He had a pulley on his mustang that gave him 9psi. He put higher flowing heads on (thats it). And the boost dropped to 6psi (with the same pulleys). So the way I took it less restriction meant less boost built up.?.?
Right, but if you run the boost controller from the wastegate, it shouldn't really matter. That would be like losing boost due to a slightly bigger intercooler pipe.

Methinks the rain=moisture in the air=harder to compress=less boost?
 
So the idle was too high, from removing the shutter valves? How did you solve this?

Did you or do you plan to do any porting of the head? Intake ports,exhaust ports, chamber?
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
I'm basing this off a little story a guy at work with a supercharged mustang. He had a pulley on his mustang that gave him 9psi. He put higher flowing heads on (thats it). And the boost dropped to 6psi (with the same pulleys). So the way I took it less restriction meant less boost built up.?.?
Very common. Same thing happened to my buddy's supercharged prelude... header dropped like 1/2 psi with the same pulley.
 
peepsalot said:
So the idle was too high, from removing the shutter valves? How did you solve this?

Did you or do you plan to do any porting of the head? Intake ports,exhaust ports, chamber?
adjust the idle screw, takes 2 seconds.
 
SpicyMchaggis said:
the VTCS emissions s*** will trip a CEL..for instance, the MP3 manifold doesn't have it.
So the MP3 manifold is the same as the MazdaSpeed one, except for the ULEV shutters? If so, I guess that would make a good starting point for porting... corrrect?
 
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