I tested out a 2010 Mazda3 Grand Touring

at least with mazda, you get a lot for your money.

there will always be some cheap components, but never as bad as a chrystler.
Exactly. I had a really bad experience with Chrysler and they turned me off from ever buying domestic again. That's when I went straight to Mazda and looked at a Protege after an advertisement I heard on the radio. Two days later I drove it off the lot. Been in a Mazda ever since.

I commend Mazda for making the new 3 a great value at such a great price. I think the real reason I'm not jumping all over it is because I'm not in the market for a new car. Maybe if I still had my 2000 Protege, I'd be all over these.
 
Anybody live in areas with horrible roads? Are you guys concerned about the 17-inchers getting damaged on a bad pothole or road surface? It just seems like a bit too much wheel to me for some reason.
 
um... you should see some of the roads around here! they suck!

and my p5 has 50 series tires, on 16s, and my 5 also has 50 series tires, on 17 inch rims. no problems so far. there are a lot of speed 3s in this area, and they have 18's with even smaller tires. just need to be carefull of coarse. if you are that concerned.. get a toyota!
 
I dont like the saying either, though it is true 99% of the time..

For example you get what you pay for.. Well what if you order something for your car, already paid for it, but dont get this item... then the saying is false

But I do agree that buying a mazda is a great value, I feel the same way about hyundai. i mean my 12k elantra had heated side mirrors stock...

But in the case of lets say honda, though I dont like honda much you do get alot for the money, but it ends up being a lot of money so where is the value?
 
Ok I finally got to test drive one.

The engine and drivetrain feel much more isolated than before. The pull of the 2.5L is similar in feel to the 2.3L, but I sense there's a bit more vibration there due to the extra displacement. The engine pulled very nicely when going onto the highway, with no qualms as it reached the upper revs. Unfortunately, I did not get to drive a manual transmission, but the automatic felt great, and I think its something I could live with. It's still reasonably geared.

The steering wheel felt great - I was surprised by the car's ability to handle corners. However, the dampening has been softened and you will feel it when you are on a highway off-ramp and you need to correct for the turn. The trade off is that when you hit bumps, the car doesn't really crash through them, but does a much better job to absorb them. I for one, really really liked this about the car because my Protege just crashes through bumps and it's rather tiresome to deal with.

You can definitely feel the pork in this model, but I'm really glad its there, to be honest. The Protege feels so light on its wheels and uneven road surfaces can really bother it. The new 3, doesn't feel that way at all. It maintains its composure in a way that mimics the entry level German sedans.

As for the interior, the dashboard and the center stack controls are really really thoughtfully designed. I really like the placement of the information screen - it's right within your field of vision and is the right size. However, they could have used a different font. Something about it screams cheap to me - it might be the MS-DOS style font they use.

The seats might be the biggest qualm for me. The side bolsters are huge and very supportive, but I think this might be too much. My legs were forced into the center of the seat, making for a rather odd driving position. And the cushion of the seat doesn't feel very supportive. I'm not sure this will hold up on long drives. My protege has fantastic seats despite the lack of side bolsters and I was expecting the same from this car. However, the seatbacks of the new 3 are fantastic! MY back felt really good!

I'm not a fan of the dimmer and odometer switches in the car. They could have spent a couple of extra pennies to refine their feel. Additionally, the dimmer switch doesn't exactly give you a very workable range for nighttime driving. It's either too dim during the night, or at full-blast during the daytime. The design of the gauge cluster looks great though.

For the most part, the rest of the car felt like the old 3. I enjoyed being in it, but I'd like to see Mazda correct some of these minor quibbles. If they do that in the next couple of years I'm sold. The car has the refinement I've been waiting for in my next ride.

Oh and one last thing - I checked out the Mazda5 to see where the alternator is: It's located closer to the front, and is protected by the lower plastic shielding. Why Mazda chose to do this with the 5 and not the 3 is seriously beyond me.
 
ha... i never even checked the alternator placement on my 5. funny huh.

and nice write up!

i do hate how my pro cannot cushion bumps, but the lightness on its feet is a plus to me.
 
I thought that the alternator is covered and is still located at the bottom, but is now protected. I will need to check this out.
 
I still dont understand the problem with the alternator. this conversation is almost like a slow news week @ fox or something
 
I still dont understand the problem with the alternator. this conversation is almost like a slow news week @ fox or something

It's just unshielded from the bottom. If you put the car on the lift and look above the passenger side driveshaft it's practically right above it. Basically my complaint is that if you hit a puddle at night (a large one) the alternator will get doused and you will have a giant mazda paperweight..

Go do that with any Honda that has the KA24 engine in it, and you won't be able to see it. Honda's gotten smart about where to locate the alternator.
 
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It's just unshielded from the bottom. If you put the car on the lift and look above the passenger side driveshaft it's practically right above it. Basically my complaint is that if you hit a puddle at night (a large one) the alternator will get doused and you will have a giant mazda paperweight..

Go do that with any Honda that has the KA24 engine in it, and you won't be able to see it. Honda's gotten smart about where to locate the alternator.
Woah, woah, woah...I've hit a few big puddles but on the right side of the car....so you're telling me that if I do it with the left side my car will basically be scrapped??? Is Mazda serious about selling a car like that? Cause that's absolute s*** if they think that's safe...
 
Woah, woah, woah...I've hit a few big puddles but on the right side of the car....so you're telling me that if I do it with the left side my car will basically be scrapped??? Is Mazda serious about selling a car like that? Cause that's absolute s*** if they think that's safe...


I'm going to use passenger side and driver's side to describe the car. The alternator is on the passenger side of the car, or the starboard side.

You completely misread what I wrote. I said that if you hit a big enough puddle, the water will eventually hit the alternator. If just the left wheel hits the puddle, you're fine, because that side of all the Proteges/Mazda3s are protected. Its the right side, that I'm saying, needs more.
 
basically, the alternator is more exposed to the elements, and more of a b**** to get to if needed.
 
I'm going to use passenger side and driver's side to describe the car. The alternator is on the passenger side of the car, or the starboard side.

You completely misread what I wrote. I said that if you hit a big enough puddle, the water will eventually hit the alternator. If just the left wheel hits the puddle, you're fine, because that side of all the Proteges/Mazda3s are protected. Its the right side, that I'm saying, needs more.
Oh...great...that's the side that runs through the deeper puddles cause for some reason all the puddles are on the right side of the lane in California. Every once in a while I like to make a big splash too. :D

I get what you're saying, for example if the alternator is 9 inches above the street and if I ran through 9 inches of water or a good amount got up in there from a shallow puddle it would be a really bad problem?
(I actually meant passenger's side, not driver's, my bad, sorry)
 
Guys, isnt there a way to get a shield and put it on yourself? Is there a good reason why Mazda left this open? Was it for heat build up? Does anyone know. Thanks.
 
look i understand the concerns. I jsut see it as a non issue for myself. dont every hear ppl having to replace them caluse of puddles.
 
wow I didnt notice how bad my spelling was in that last post. damn tiredness.

Once again I am not arguing that its not a valid concern, just feel its a non issue as I dont drive through deep ass puddles on a regular basis.

To complain about placment of things i could bring up other stuff. for instance in my MSP. why would you put an ashtray right behind your cup holders. its not an issue if I am the only one with a beverage. but if me and the wife or a friend have one then I cant use my ashtray. Dont like the placement of the ashtray in the 3 either. but then again the last chevy i drove had no ashtray what so ever. and I know, I should not smoke inside the car, but its my car so I will :)
 
(rotfl) that was kinda funny.
I only see it as a concern because the roads here aren't perfectly drained so they get big ol puddles in the winter.
 
yeah they can get real bad in fairfield too...and in yuba city where im at right now but it hasent been a problem thus far...if for some reason now I eff up my alternator I am coming back to this thread to bash mazda for faulty design lol
 

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